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joe588
02-09-2009, 09:49 PM
Hi guys!

Does anyone know if the crank pulley bolt is a reverse thread, ie tighten anti clockwise?

Been trying for ages to get it off normally and it ain't budging. Thought I'd better double check as I don't want to tighten it even more :D

Cheers.

Sorry forgot to add, 3sgte in an st185.

donteatbugs
02-09-2009, 10:37 PM
regualr thread. very tight

use the starter trick

Luni
02-09-2009, 10:43 PM
+1 to Bugs.

If the engine is in the car just put a big wrench on the starter bolt, brace it by a crossmember, or the ground, and blip the starter. The crossmember or ground will hold the wrench, and the torque of the starter will reverse the bolt out.

I usually use an impact on those and they come out. But toyota uses locktite from the factory on them, and they can get pretty stuck on there.

joe588
02-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Thanks!

Not entirely sure what you mean by the starter bolt, do you mean put socket and ratchet on the crank pulley bolt braced against the floor then start, or put nothing on the crank pulley bolt and put the ratchet on the starter motor bolt?

Trance4c
02-09-2009, 11:43 PM
Thanks!

Not entirely sure what you mean by the starter bolt, do you mean put socket and ratchet on the crank pulley bolt braced against the floor then start

That part, but get a breaker bar, no ratchet.

Luni
02-10-2009, 12:56 AM
I just use a standard endwrench on that.

andy
02-10-2009, 01:13 AM
starter trick is a damn boss trick! do it!

joe's gt
02-10-2009, 03:02 AM
joe, luni meant put the breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt, not the starter bolt.

Carolina91GT-S
02-10-2009, 01:02 PM
I had to use an electric impact wrench, the air compresor driven one wouldn't do it. I thin I got an electric one for $25 from Walmart, did the trick.

joe588
02-10-2009, 02:55 PM
joe, luni meant put the breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt, not the starter bolt.
Yeah that's what I thought, but I've never done this before so had to make sure heh.

Right, I'm gonna go try it now, I'll report back with either a broken nose or a loose pulley bolt! Wish me luck :bigthumbu

joe588
02-10-2009, 03:24 PM
Not a chance! Didn't even slightly budge. Dug a nice hole in my concrete floor though .

Smaay
02-10-2009, 04:27 PM
that shouldnt happen.

vip09
02-10-2009, 05:31 PM
Sounds like you need to find a better place for the wrench.

joe588
02-10-2009, 05:58 PM
Well i tried it in all positions, none worked.

Have I missed something here, there isn't anything I have to undo prior to just undoing the bolt on the pulley?

vip09
02-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Nope it should just come out. You might need a stronger impact.

Luni
02-10-2009, 06:32 PM
Yeah dude, Ive never had the crank pulley trick fail. I dont know what to tell you if that isnt working.

Try lots of PB blaster, and get the bolt itself hot with a torch before trying it, and try and break it free with it hot.

Other than that, not sure man.

joe588
02-10-2009, 06:48 PM
Ah ok cheers :(

The car hasn't been started for 6 months, so went to the scrap yard to get a battery for it. Maybe the battery isn't fully charged and so the starter is weak? Came up fine on the multi though.

I've soaked it in dub dee 40 again, put battery on charge, and going to heat the bolt up again. If it doesn't work this time... then... i dunno.

vip09
02-10-2009, 07:15 PM
Don't heat the bolt.. you need to heat the crankshaft. Heating the bolt will make it expand and get tighter.

donteatbugs
02-10-2009, 07:30 PM
he cant really heat the crank though...heating the bolt might help break it loose from the expanding and contracting. its worth a try i guess.


make a badass starter or something. if you dont care about your starter being burnt up hook 2 batteries in series and hook them directly to the starter, DO NOT HOOK THEM TO THE CAR. jump one battery to trigger the starter and have 24v going through the starter but not through the trigger wire. it might work. THIS MIGHT AND MOST LIKELY KILL YOUR STARTER, TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK

Luni
02-10-2009, 08:58 PM
I doubt he will need to do that, If he makes sure hes doing it with a charged battery, and hes sprayed some PB blaster on the bolt 10 minutes before trying, Im confident either A) the bolt will break free or B) the wrench will break.

joe588
02-10-2009, 09:35 PM
Nope still won't shift with a charged battery. Even tried lifting the bar up a bit so when it spins it has 3 inches of travel to try and crack it off to no avail.

Have some more goes tomorrow then just gonna bail and get a mechanic to bring a beastly air gun round.

vip09
02-10-2009, 09:38 PM
A good impact will get it off.

joe588
02-10-2009, 09:50 PM
Hope so!!

Need to find out if my headgasket replacement held up!

polish dude
02-11-2009, 03:13 AM
i posted this about 3 weeks ago. any metal put in to block gears is always last resort.
take your shifter assemby out of the transmission and put it in to r-4-2 gears at the same time. this will lock up the tranny and let you do what you want with out any strain on your gears and belts and such.

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38935

joe588
02-11-2009, 03:09 PM
Ok I just had a mechanic round and even he can't get it off. Said it was the tightest pulley bolt he'd come across in 30 years.

What the hell :(

joe588
02-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Wooo it's off!!

Combination of prybar in the flywheel and ring gear with huge impact wrench = result.

Pulley is knackered though. Anyone got a spare one :)

Sean
02-11-2009, 06:00 PM
I was about to say, MAN UP son.

I don't recommend doing the starter trick, not very bright.

donteatbugs
02-11-2009, 06:35 PM
congrats, i used to have one but i thinki sold it a while back

joe588
02-11-2009, 06:36 PM
I was about to say, MAN UP son.

I don't recommend doing the starter trick, not very bright.
heheh, didn't work anyway!

Man that thing was tight, experienced mechanic has never seen anything like it.

donteatbugs
02-11-2009, 08:57 PM
i have done the starter thing on every toyota that ive done the timing belt on, it has never failed me. i always put it back on with antiseize and my electric impact so i can get it off the next time.

Freshnicity
02-11-2009, 09:30 PM
i have done the starter thing on every toyota that ive done the timing belt on, it has never failed me. i always put it back on with antiseize and my electric impact so i can get it off the next time.

Ive done the samething a couple times while doing the timing belt on my ST, and its yet to hurt anything.

How does it hurt?

Luni
02-11-2009, 10:21 PM
Yeah Sean, to be honest, Ive used that starter trick on every car Ive ever taken that pulley off, while in the car.

Ive prolly done it more than most people on here, and Ive never once had an issue.

Dont be hatin son.

polish dude
02-12-2009, 12:46 PM
i got an extra pully. let you have it for $15.