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ST185
01-07-2009, 07:45 PM
hey everyone I've been away for a pretty long while and i need some input. I've been thinking about selling my 5th Gen and getting a newer car but i dont know what i should get. So far i have come up with 3 possibilities

7th Gen Celica
Acura RSX
Subaru WRX

What do you guys think? Any other suggestions?

hyoctane
01-07-2009, 08:01 PM
Well, I'd give you my siggestion, but I am a bit bias...

Actually, out of the three cars you have shortlisted, the AWD turbo platform trumps them all.

lburner
01-07-2009, 08:02 PM
well u know what wins out of thoes wrx. go get a nice used audi tt

ciento44
01-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Be aware that a stock WRX handles in a completely unfulfilling way.

Or at least the older ones... don't know much about the new ones.

Ryan
01-07-2009, 08:18 PM
^I am surprised you didnt say, "OMFG rsx is teh sex want sex with one nao!!!!1"

ciento44
01-07-2009, 08:23 PM
^I am surprised you didnt say, "OMFG rsx is teh sex want sex with one nao!!!!1"


Ugh.... fuck the RSX. Nasty heavy car.... 7th gen GTS runs circles around one, and costs less.

burnyd
01-07-2009, 08:24 PM
what year wrx are you looking to get? All of my friends with wrx's have went through transmissions with only bolt on parts so there not making much power......

out of those three I would prolly pick the 7th gen or the rsx.

ST185
01-07-2009, 09:02 PM
maybe like a late 90's model wrx 2.5 RS but leaning mostly towards the RSX Type S

Insan3
01-07-2009, 09:08 PM
wrx sti :)

Cavanagh
01-08-2009, 02:26 PM
7th Gen GT-S.

vip09
01-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Stock 7th gen GT-S > Stock WRX

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Stock-WRX-vs-Stock-Celica_41201.htm

vip09
01-08-2009, 05:25 PM
I've never lost to a stock WRX! :)

mr2trd3
01-08-2009, 06:17 PM
To the OP, it really depends on what you need the car for. Once you figure that out, you will have a better list.

If you're looking for a weekend car, I'd hunt down a Honda S2000 as prices have come down a lot, into the low teens. I've seen several for $10k. If I wasn't planning on going back to school, I'd pick one up in a heartbeat. The MR2 Turbo or MR2 Spyder are also good options for this purpose.

If you're looking for a DD, I'd go for a Corolla. Reliable, safe, low maintenance, really good resale value.

If you want a DD with some performance, I'd get a Civic Si. If you want a DD with some performance and some room, I'd go for the Civic Si sedan, a used WRX, or a Lexus IS300.

ciento44
01-08-2009, 06:22 PM
In what, a street drag? No matter how you look at it, a 7th Gen Celica will never out do a WRX in a performance comparison.

Not a new one, sure....

But the older ones only ran like... low 15s in the quarter, stock.

Ryan can take that.

The only place a WRX should win is off road, or in bad conditions.

And i don't think we all like heavy awd cars, turbo or not. I'd rather have a light car with crazy revs and better reflexes.

Smaay
01-08-2009, 06:30 PM
i have a very clean 2001 GT-S 6 speed for sale. it has a new engine and transmission in it with less than 2000 miles.

asking 8,000.

hobbie2k
01-08-2009, 06:31 PM
When you say the older ones, are you talking about the late 90s 2.5RS (not technically a WRX) or the bug eyes WRX from the early 2000s? I'd have to look it up, but I thought the bug eyes ran a high 13 - low 14 stock...

mr2trd3
01-08-2009, 06:32 PM
When you say the older ones, are you talking about the late 90s 2.5RS (not technically a WRX) or the bug eyes WRX from the early 2000s? I'd have to look it up, but I thought the bug eyes ran a high 13 - low 14 stock...

The bug eyes run mid to low 14's in stock form and consistently. The older models are not WRX's, they are equipped with weak 2.2L or 2.5L engines.

Freshnicity
01-08-2009, 07:11 PM
to the OP

75h Gen Celica for sure in my book. Me personally, i rather have a 5th gen anyday of the week over any of the cars listed in here.

Ill take my 90 GT over a WRX, RSX,SI or 7th gen Celi. Any...Day

but thats not what youre asking, my answer, 7th gen Celica or the new Acura with SH-AWD, is it the TL or CL? dont remember

also, 5th Gen Celicas > anything you drive. :( im a fan boy

mr2trd3
01-08-2009, 07:15 PM
To the Op, if those are your only option, my vote is in for the Scoobie.

85gtsblackman
01-08-2009, 07:26 PM
wrx>7th gen if u wanna mod it, just dont get a 02-03 wrx, those have a "glass" transmission

7th gen> wrx if your just looking for a daily to beat around in and not do much to it.

pretty much this,

stock 7th gen>wrx
moddified 7th gen<wrx



i have a list of cars id rather have but ill get the board all asshurt like i did a few years back so im going to leave it at that

and u guys talking about hp and phisics and stuff never think about gear ratios

sheesh

85gtsblackman
01-08-2009, 09:12 PM
ah the joy of rwd

Trance4c
01-08-2009, 09:20 PM
I'm simply a guy who loves cars. The difference between me and some of you is that I go by facts, numbers, etc., much like most members of MR2OC. Seems to me that some of you are no more than fanboys, much like what I've seen on Hondatech. IF anyone were to ever post a thread on MR2OC about opinions on which car to buy, MR2 Turbo, Supra Turbo, or Honda S2000, MR2OC will NOT automatically defend the MR2. We understand that the car has its limitations, understand that there are other cars out there that are better at doing certain things, and we respect that so we will respond accordingly.

Thatís contradictive. People that love cars love them for what they are, not because of numbers and facts. As you say later in your post, they have limitations as all automobiles do and in that we can appreciate them for what they are. That is the true mark of an auto enthusiast, but coming out first saying you go by facts, numbers, etc.. will never allow you to truly appreciate a car in its limited state as you say you do.

That, is the difference.


In a sense, its very much the reason why I do love my FWD Celica. I am not your fanboy you so eloquently refer to us as. We are the abomination of Toyota performance. We are not appreciated, liked, or included for the most part in any other fashion as other Toyota performance autos. We simply where never meant to be. Appreciating that, is what makes us who we are.

Add that to the above, and you find yourself mixed in a group that might even be further true pure auto enthusiasts than what you might find at the MR2OC or in the Supra communities.


As for the debate at hand - GTS vs WRX. The GTS overall is the winner. Not cause we say so, but because in all aspects of the car the GTS will be more consistent, require less hands on work under the hood, provide just as much joy (obviously subjective, but none of us are professional racers, so if you debate that I consider you a dolt) and cost less.

In 4 out of 5 categories the GTS either matches or beats a WRX.

2.5L STI with way more than 1K done under the hood barely beat me on 10psi with my 2.0L. Bump that up to 17 I'm tuned for and it would be a very different story, add race gas and let me run 20psi and it would be my win. I don't look down at them at all (I can appreciate others), but I do much more, with much less in a very unique, abominal, rarely appreciated way. We're not asking you to agree about that, but I wouldn't be assuming a community from that perspective to agree with you either.

ST185
01-13-2009, 07:42 AM
ok so now its between two cars either a Acura RSX or a Honda S2000. but if not any of those i'll settle for a 6speed GT-S. Hopefully all goes well and i do end up getting a new ride but i'll just have to wait and see

85gtsblackman
01-13-2009, 08:42 AM
s2000, seats suck though

lburner
01-13-2009, 09:24 AM
s2000

manu
01-13-2009, 12:40 PM
rsx > s2000 as dd but s2000 > rsx at pure performance and handling...personally i'd get the integra (rsx)...as good as the s2000 is...its high revving engine would be too impractical...and if you have bad roads, the s2000 is a backbreaker...are silvias out of the question over there?

mr2trd3
01-13-2009, 02:34 PM
That's a no brainer, man. It will come down to what you need. If you need a DD, the obvious choice is the RSX. If you want a weekend car, it's not even a comparison. The S2000 is obviously the better choice.

KoreanJoey
01-14-2009, 04:26 AM
s2000, seats suck though

Only if you're larger.

:)

ST185
01-14-2009, 05:57 AM
yeah but i'm a little guy so its all good

Wicked Toys
01-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Now owning my 04 wrx for a year now. I can say it's fun n a good daily driver but the clanky tranny and handling isn't up to par as I'd like. Very Easily modded though. I'd say WRX or 7th Gen either are fun to drive vehicles.

mr2trd3
01-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Now owning my 04 wrx for a year now. I can say it's fun n a good daily driver but the clanky tranny and handling isn't up to par as I'd like. Very Easily modded though. I'd say WRX or 7th Gen either are fun to drive vehicles.

You missed a fun e-battle. :)

DblOSmith
01-20-2009, 03:37 AM
I'd love to get an S2K, but it's too small for me to comfortably drive. :( Give me 120% and it'd be okay.

geebes
01-20-2009, 05:09 AM
Wrx, especially for daily. They are way more versatile. plus 4 doors would rule.

usp45
01-21-2009, 01:23 AM
decide what you want and need then base your decision off that.

Thats my advice. Or Volvo S60R.