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ansteadallday
01-06-2009, 10:32 PM
I can trade in my 5th gen 5speed with a lot of new stuff for a 03 celica gt 5 speed. i would have to pay about 7500 and my car.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail/photos/multiPhotoPopup.jsp?paId=136930781&tracktype=usedms&isuper=true&aff=national

About This Celica
Mileage: 66,000
Body Style: Hatchback
Exterior Color: Black
Interior Color: Gray Cloth
Stock #: 102301
VIN: JTDDR32T030143762

Engine: 4 Cylinders
Transmission: 5 Speed manual
Drivetrain: FWD
Doors: 2
Wheelbase: 102"

http://images.cars.com/thumbnail/DMI/177342/102301.09.jpg?t=tr/w:59/h:48/m:FitPad/b:dddddd

http://images.cars.com/thumbnail/DMI/177342/102301.08.jpg?t=tr/w:59/h:48/m:FitPad/b:dddddd

http://images.cars.com/thumbnail/DMI/177342/102301.06.jpg?t=tr/w:59/h:48/m:FitPad/b:dddddd

http://images.cars.com/thumbnail/DMI/177342/102301.05.jpg?t=tr/w:59/h:48/m:FitPad/b:dddddd

What do you think?

This is my car
http://www.toyotacelicas.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19452&hl=

i will be trading it with the steelies. unless someone offers to buy it ill sell the 17s with it.

ciento44
01-07-2009, 12:07 PM
I'd just keep the 5th gen, too.

Assuming going rate where you are for 7th gens is same as here... they're giving you like $50 for your 5th gen.

ansteadallday
01-07-2009, 06:22 PM
he's giving me 1500 for my car.

ciento44
01-07-2009, 06:35 PM
Then that is one grossly overpriced 7th gen GT. :hehe:

Move on, you can get a GTS for that.

He's not giving you $1500 for your car by the way.... it's not worth that much as a trade in. Sorry if that's harsh, it's not meant like that.

He's giving you $1500 off the original inflated asking price, figuring out that he can still turn a profit for $7500 cash and no trade in, then he'll turn around and try to sell your car for $3500 on top of that, and if it doesn't sell, then he'll send it to auction to make $800 quick. He doesn't care about your car.

If you come up with a decent downpayment instead of using your car as a downpayment, i'm almost positive you could walk out of there with both cars for $7500.

Cavanagh
01-07-2009, 06:39 PM
^word^, you are in GT-S territory with 7,500. Look for others 7th gens.

hyoctane
01-07-2009, 07:54 PM
^word^, you are in GT-S territory with 7,500. Look for others 7th gens.

Actually the GT-S holds it value pretty well if it's a 6-speed in great condition... look on auto trader if you don't beleive me. hmm. I would say that if you can knock off $1,000+ I'd consider it.

ciento44
01-07-2009, 08:01 PM
Dealers have GTSs for $8k and under round these here parts.

hyoctane
01-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Dealers have GTSs for $8k and under round these here parts.

Interesting. Autotrader search for an '01 GT-S 6-speed nationwide: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=used&distance=0&address=34221&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=TOYOTA&model=CELICA&make2=&start_year=2001&end_year=2001&min_price=&max_price=&seller_type=b&transmission=Manual&engine=&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywordsrep=103116045115&keywordsfyc=__Z3Qtcw%2C%2C__&keywords_display=gt-s&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=y&highlightFirstMakeModel=&showZipError=n&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=&sownerid=75751&rdm=1231358593821

Highest Price:
Lowest Price:
Average Price:

$13,900
$5,750
$9,738

ansteadallday
01-08-2009, 12:16 AM
yeah i thought it was over priced. he's a really good friend of my stepdads so i can probably get him pretty low. what would be your opinion on what its worth? ill see if i can get him that low.9k is too much for it. i might be able to get it for like 6500-7000

ciento44
01-08-2009, 02:59 PM
I'd pay $7k for it, no trade-in.

Cavanagh
01-08-2009, 03:10 PM
Actually the GT-S holds it value pretty well if it's a 6-speed in great condition... look on auto trader if you don't beleive me. hmm. I would say that if you can knock off $1,000+ I'd consider it.
To me, Autotrader is always higher then usual. I remeber i was seeing 5th Gen STs going for 3-5k on there about a year ago. :wtf:

vip09
01-08-2009, 04:37 PM
That is definitely not a $10,999 car. With the way the paint looks in the pictures, I'd only give them around $7k for it.

The 2003 is better than the previous models because it has the glass sunroof and black interior panels. They also started using Drive-By-Wire in 2003 on the GT-S, I'm not sure if they did on the GT also. This is not necessarily a good thing though.

hyoctane
01-08-2009, 05:40 PM
That is definitely not a $10,999 car. With the way the paint looks in the pictures, I'd only give them around $7k for it.

The 2003 is better than the previous models because it has the glass sunroof and black interior panels. They also started using Drive-By-Wire in 2003 on the GT-S, I'm not sure if they did on the GT also. This is not necessarily a good thing though.

But the glass moon roof (which I want, my plastic one looks horrible) and the DBW doesn't help the further separated shifting gates and the 7,800 RPM fuel cutoff.

I want that glass moon roof though...

Idiot Stick
01-08-2009, 06:00 PM
Hyoctane, most people just assume a GT-S is a GT-S and dont realise that the 4speed Automatic GTS is slower than a 5 speed GT. the 6 speed GT-S is the only way to go. High five!

On another note - I beleive 2003 is also when they fixed the oil consumption issue for the GT's so you are safe there. Drive by wire is meh. GT's dont suffer from the fuel cut. GT-S's of that year suffer from a lower fuel cut, making them slower and also making them fall out of 'lift' each shift, which brings the 1/4 time down alot.

IMO - Try and convince them to give you the car for 7500 with no trade in. Prices down there are so fucked vs up here in Canada though, so Id be ape-shit happy for that price after a trade in too if you were up here.

Smaay
01-08-2009, 06:34 PM
no in 03 the rev limiter was back up to 8300 but is did go to a drive by wire throttle. the GT's never adopted a DBW. its only the 02 that has the lower 7800 RPM limit. that can easily be fixed by replacing the ECU and knock sensor, or install a Power FC. IMO the 02 is the best model to get.

mr2trd3
01-08-2009, 06:35 PM
Without reading the whole thread, only the original post, it's a dumb trade. You're basically getting arse fawked and you're paying for it. Is that what you want?


Edit: I wouldn't even pay $7,500 for a 60k miles 7th Gen Celica GT. With that money, you have SO many more options that are SOOOOOO much better in every way. Similar scenerio, why spend $20k on a non-turbo automatic 1994 Supra?

ciento44
01-08-2009, 06:48 PM
Without reading the whole thread, only the original post, it's a dumb trade. You're basically getting arse fawked and you're paying for it. Is that what you want?


Edit: I wouldn't even pay $7,500 for a 60k miles 7th Gen Celica GT. With that money, you have SO many more options that are SOOOOOO much better in every way. Similar scenerio, why spend $20k on a non-turbo automatic 1994 Supra?


For the same reason people pay retarded amounts of money for 15 year old Toyota mid rear engined turbo cars? They like them?

mr2trd3
01-08-2009, 07:01 PM
For the same reason people pay retarded amounts of money for 15 year old Toyota mid rear engined turbo cars? They like them?

LOL. Why anyone (looking for a sports car, not to say the Celica GT is one) would pay $7,500 for an automatic Celica GT and not for a MKII MR2 Turbo is beyond me. Again, my ignorant friend, there is no comparison. And...I don't think $4-6k for a 1991-1992 Turbo, $6-9k for a 1993 Turbo, and $10-15k for a 1994-1995 Turbo is unreasonable at all. Fact is, they still hold their own (performance/design/appearance wise), even after 15 years, AND, most importantly, hold their value. Too bad your 2000 Celica has lost over 60% of its value in less than a decade and will continue to depreciate to nothing.

Ciento - Check out the pictures of my brother's and my MR2. While you're viewing my pictures, I know you're overflowing with envy.

Ryan
01-08-2009, 07:24 PM
Seriously, go the fuck away, leave, and go troll mr2oc... k?

ciento44
01-08-2009, 07:26 PM
LOL. Why anyone (looking for a sports car, not to say the Celica GT is one) would pay $7,500 for an automatic Celica GT and not for a MKII MR2 Turbo is beyond me. Again, my ignorant friend, there is no comparison. And...I don't think $4-6k for a 1991-1992 Turbo, $6-9k for a 1993 Turbo, and $10-15k for a 1994-1995 Turbo is unreasonable at all. Fact is, they still hold their own (performance/design/appearance wise), even after 15 years, AND, most importantly, hold their value. Too bad your 2000 Celica has lost over 60% of its value in less than a decade and will continue to depreciate to nothing.

Ciento - Check out the pictures of my brother's and my MR2. While you're viewing my pictures, I know you're overflowing with envy.

It's still an old toyota with it's flaws buddy... We're a car-oriented forum. Most of us don't buy cars as an investment. It's because we like them. You MR2 guys like MR2s, so you're prepared to pay for them. We like Celicas, so we're prepared to pay for them. Well.... except for me. I won't pay more than a grand for one.

I'd call those prices ridiculous... because i no longer lust for an MR2. That's cherry E36 M3 territory. Which... again.... those prices for a 10-15 year old Bimmer is pretty stupid, too. But i like them. If i had the money, i'd consider an MR2 Turbo, definitely. But it's because i like them.

It comes down to what the market will pay. The market will pay those prices because the market likes the cars, regardless of other factors.

ciento44
01-08-2009, 07:36 PM
LOL. Why anyone (looking for a sports car, not to say the Celica GT is one) would pay $7,500 for an automatic Celica GT and not for a MKII MR2 Turbo is beyond me. Again, my ignorant friend, there is no comparison. And...I don't think $4-6k for a 1991-1992 Turbo, $6-9k for a 1993 Turbo, and $10-15k for a 1994-1995 Turbo is unreasonable at all. Fact is, they still hold their own (performance/design/appearance wise), even after 15 years, AND, most importantly, hold their value. Too bad your 2000 Celica has lost over 60% of its value in less than a decade and will continue to depreciate to nothing.

Ciento - Check out the pictures of my brother's and my MR2. While you're viewing my pictures, I know you're overflowing with envy.

Nah... it's cool. I'm into EF chassis Hondas at the moment. And Ford Escort GTs.

85gtsblackman
01-08-2009, 07:48 PM
keep your 5th gen, it looks better anyway

ansteadallday
01-08-2009, 07:55 PM
where did this whole automatic thing come up? haha thats funny. i think 99% of this forums wants or drives stick. im part of the 99% that drives stick. automatic is boring and for people who arent able to drive stick or dont have enough patience to learn. took me a day to learn how to drive without stalling.