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extremeskillz
11-13-2008, 05:09 PM
Hey guys,

Whats do you recommend for a msd ignition upgrade? I've been wanting to do this for a while and will like to do it over the winter while my car is sleeping.

I want to do the ignition box and coil for now. I will stay with the OEM plugs and wires as they are not old.

What are your recommendations for this upgrade and within a understandable budget?

Ryan
11-13-2008, 05:22 PM
What msd box are you getting?

Also, when you do the coil, you are most likely going to have to convert to an external coil...

ciento44
11-13-2008, 05:30 PM
I guess my particular question is..... why?

extremeskillz
11-13-2008, 06:06 PM
I guess my particular question is..... why?

Better fuel burn (boosting economy) and better performance. I know we are not talking about big hp gains here as this is a N/A street car.

extremeskillz
11-13-2008, 06:07 PM
What msd box are you getting?

Also, when you do the coil, you are most likely going to have to convert to an external coil...

I was looking at the sport compact box but not sure. I don't have experience with msd boxes. The coil most likely it'll be the blaster coil unless someone says otherwise.

Ryan
11-13-2008, 07:25 PM
I am not sure exactly how to do the external coil conversion, I am guessing you lead the power and ground wires from the internal coil, extend them to the external coil, get a different cap, and get a coil wire to go from the coil to the disty cap.

But that is just a guess of what you have to do.

MrWOT
11-13-2008, 10:54 PM
MSD p/n: 5900

+

Matching coil of your choice

extremeskillz
11-13-2008, 11:05 PM
MSD p/n: 5900

+

Matching coil of your choice

Thanks, I'll look into your recommendation.

CriScO
11-13-2008, 11:47 PM
I say 6200. I've had great results with the 6A.

beingblueeyes
11-16-2008, 03:27 AM
Summit Racing Street & Strip® Multi-Spark Digital CD Ignition
here (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D850602&N=700+115&autoview=sku)
its what im running now and it works great and you cant beat the specs for the price

RedRkt01
11-18-2008, 01:39 PM
Can someone tell me why no one uses the HKS Twin Power for a hotter, longer spark? I've noticed that most like to go with the MSD.

CriScO
11-18-2008, 08:17 PM
Can someone tell me why no one uses the HKS Twin Power for a hotter, longer spark? I've noticed that most like to go with the MSD.
Actually, price was number one. I get MSD stuff fairly cheap through work. Also, I like red. :hehe: Honestly though, even the power output of the MSD is overkill, it isn't like most of these motors will ever see more than 7k RPM. For a daily driven FE application it's more than enough.

Oh, and I forgot the shameless plug! :)
http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32313

extremeskillz
11-18-2008, 09:08 PM
Crisco your the man for posting that link. Thats a great guide and will prove helpful!

RedRkt01
11-18-2008, 09:21 PM
Actually, price was number one. I get MSD stuff fairly cheap through work. Also, I like red. :hehe: Honestly though, even the power output of the MSD is overkill, it isn't like most of these motors will ever see more than 7k RPM. For a daily driven FE application it's more than enough.

Oh, and I forgot the shameless plug! :)
http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32313

Shameless, indeed!

glenn
11-19-2008, 03:22 AM
would it be worth it to use something like this on a 4AFE

extremeskillz
11-19-2008, 04:35 AM
Even though my questioning was wat system would be best for my engine, upgrading the ignition not only improves idle and overall engine performance but it also makes fuel burning more efficient resulting in better gas mileage and again better performance from the engine. So yea it worth it!

presure2
11-19-2008, 09:50 AM
dude, your wasting your money.
its a 5s, and makes maybe 105whp.
you dont need a high power ignition, just good, fresh OEM components.
shannon is making close to 300whp with all factory ignition, and has no issues at all.
ive been running stock stuff since i turboed (changed wires, cap, and rotor yearly, with no issues as well, and can still get 30+ mpg highway.

extremeskillz
11-19-2008, 02:11 PM
Well just hearing that just refreshed my thought about doing the upgrade. Thanks for the input Manny and saving me money!

RedRkt01
11-19-2008, 02:33 PM
I think I'll still do it

presure2
12-04-2008, 05:33 PM
I think I'll still do it
and you'd still be wasting your $$. :lolhittin :ohyeah:

ciento44
12-04-2008, 05:40 PM
That's really the reason for my first post.... I was more wondering if you were doing anything else in conjunction that would help. :hehe:

RedRkt01
12-04-2008, 07:27 PM
and you'd still be wasting your $$. :lolhittin :ohyeah:

Some people like to have the best.......

And still some people have money to burn........

In fact....I think I'll do it twice!!!....just to do it twice!!!

What's more is that the concept of waste is a relative term and subjective at best. Dude.

extremeskillz
12-04-2008, 07:46 PM
Actually going to save my money for now. Seems lately the dollar is being stretched oh so much further then I like.

MrWOT
12-04-2008, 09:07 PM
5900 (180mJ 450v inductive output) + a coil that will handle 420-450v input at ~60:1 secondary : primary windings to match it nicely to your needs.

Start it at .045" and work your way up until you hit misfire, then back the gap down .005 for a good margin of safety.

extremeskillz
12-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Interesting. I'll take note.