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sheep
10-21-2008, 12:36 PM
well i bought a tercel for exactly what its ment for, good MPG since i bought a truck, and it was great and still is great, but man is it boring to drive. drove my buddies MR2 today after he got the exhaust put in and that thing is a blast so i have starting thinking of ways to maybe brighten up the tercel and one of the ways was a short shifter. but im having a really hard time finding one for a 94 3ee tercels. just wondering if anyone knows of a company that makes them? or if the ones made for the newer tercels would work with little to no modification

thanks for any help

usp45
10-21-2008, 01:01 PM
hacksaw and an aftermarket knob that doesn't need threads. It's not like it's for a show car.

sheep
10-21-2008, 08:53 PM
i thought that didnt actually do anything but make it shorter? it doesnt actually have the same function?

ciento44
10-21-2008, 09:04 PM
It'll help, to an extent. If you think about it, it's not going to do anything to the throw, in terms of angle, but if the rod itself is shorter, then you'll shorten how far your hand has to move by a corresponding amount.

On the flip side, shift effort will go up, as you've decreased your leverage.

sheep
10-21-2008, 09:14 PM
alright well ill think about it, maybe ill go that way instead it would be cheaper and if i clean it up, i dont think anyone would be able to tell it was just cut

thanks guys

celica91gts
10-22-2008, 12:53 AM
TURBO IT! toyota starlet

celica9303
10-22-2008, 01:25 AM
TWM? Best. one out there worth the money

Ghosty
10-22-2008, 03:40 AM
You need a 4EFTE turbo swap, my friend.

sheep
10-22-2008, 05:58 AM
You need a 4EFTE turbo swap, my friend.

i thought about that, but if i wanted to spend that much i would find another celica and do a 3sgte swap.


TWM? Best. one out there worth the money

they only make one for the newer tercels :wtf:

usp45
10-22-2008, 07:37 AM
i thought that didnt actually do anything but make it shorter? it doesnt actually have the same function?

Yeah, a well designed short throw is definatly supurior. I was just thinking that for a stock tercel hacksaw engineering is good enough. ciento44 is right about shift effort, a worn syncro can become rather bitchy. It's prolly worth the money to buy something designed for the purpose, if you can find one. I tend to look at the world from the perspective of a cheap ass.

sheep
10-22-2008, 08:38 AM
i guess the bigest thing turning me away from the saw idea is getting a knob or a new knob on there and to stay on there

yankee7568
10-22-2008, 08:55 AM
Here you go> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97-TOYOTA-COROLLA-DX-LE-BLACK-SHORT-SHIFTER-94-95_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1417Q7c39Q3a1Q 7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem350111764218QQitemZ350111764218

It will fit I have one in my tercel........

BTW if you need more info on the car go to www.tercelonline.com

yankee7568
10-22-2008, 08:59 AM
Also If I had the tercel I would do a 5efhe swap... 110hp stock with rods strong enough to with hold 25psi daily. The cams are awesome in the 5efhe and also the intake.....

The 5efhe is $600 + shipping and I know where to get one right now....cause there hard to find now days....

celica91gts
10-22-2008, 10:01 AM
i will vouch for tercel online being a very informative forum.

Lonestag
10-22-2008, 08:47 PM
tercelonline.com is good, but can be a little confusing to navigate.
They have helped me a lot with my wiring nightmare though.

You can throw on a good intake and header for a little gain. I think OBX makes a header...

But man, do you really wanna mess with that 40+ MPG?

yankee7568
10-22-2008, 11:19 PM
tercelonline.com is good, but can be a little confusing to navigate.
They have helped me a lot with my wiring nightmare though.

You can throw on a good intake and header for a little gain. I think OBX makes a header...

But man, do you really wanna mess with that 40+ MPG?

Right now they don't make a header for the 3ee anymore....

sheep
10-23-2008, 06:48 AM
Also If I had the tercel I would do a 5efhe swap... 110hp stock with rods strong enough to with hold 25psi daily. The cams are awesome in the 5efhe and also the intake.....

The 5efhe is $600 + shipping and I know where to get one right now....cause there hard to find now days....

maybe after i get settled ill look into the engine swap idea further, im planning on getting married in april so most of the extra money i have is going to that. and then afterwards somewhere to live lol. is it a direct swap for the most part?


Here you go> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97-TOYOTA-COROLLA-DX-LE-BLACK-SHORT-SHIFTER-94-95_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1417Q7c39Q3a1Q 7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem350111764218QQitemZ350111764218

It will fit I have one in my tercel........

BTW if you need more info on the car go to www.tercelonline.com


sweet, i was hoping someone would chime in and say something else would fit, what year is your tercel? just want to make sure it will fit before i go and order it

and ill look into the tercelonline.com, i have been looking for a good tercel forum too

thanks guys you have been a huge help, exactly why i came here when i had my celica :D

yankee7568
10-23-2008, 07:26 AM
It will fit any 91-94 tercel... I had it on my 92 and swaped it over to my other 93 tercel.

The 5efhe is a direct swap... You will just have to rewire some things.. Also for a cheaper more reliable then the 3ee engine swap would be 5efe from a 92-95 paseo. Thats also a direct swap but have to rewire the dizzy plug... The 5efhe you will need the ecu for or get emange or some kind of tuner to run the engine....

sheep
10-23-2008, 07:29 AM
alright then, guess there is nothing left to do but order it

i think i would rather go with the 4EFTE, just since i was going to go with the 3sgte for the celica, just always wanted a turbo'ed motor

Ghosty
10-24-2008, 12:13 AM
The 4EFTE responds very well to boost!

And the gas mileage is amazing, from what I hear.

sheep
10-24-2008, 06:21 AM
But man, do you really wanna mess with that 40+ MPG?

too late, i put 18s on it...lol

next year she will be going all black(except the rims), she is getting tint around christmas

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6379/tercel001ba0.jpg

yankee7568
10-24-2008, 08:50 AM
alright then, guess there is nothing left to do but order it

i think i would rather go with the 4EFTE, just since i was going to go with the 3sgte for the celica, just always wanted a turbo'ed motor

It will be around 2500 for that swap......

Kastigir
10-24-2008, 08:04 PM
To be honest, it's a Tercel. how much *fun to drive* could it actually have?

sheep
10-25-2008, 06:01 AM
It will be around 2500 for that swap......

we shall see if i every rolls around, maybe when my truck is paid off



To be honest, it's a Tercel. how much *fun to drive* could it actually have?

well if i actually do the swap i bet it could be alot of fun with some some lowering springs to make it a little more sturdy, maybe a paseo front sway bar, of coarse if i put the lowering spring on it i would have to get smaller rims which isnt a huge problem

yankee7568
10-25-2008, 09:01 AM
To be honest, it's a Tercel. how much *fun to drive* could it actually have?


More fun then a celica..........Cause a celica is a slug on wheels.

yankee7568
10-25-2008, 09:02 AM
we shall see if i every rolls around, maybe when my truck is paid off




well if i actually do the swap i bet it could be alot of fun with some some lowering springs to make it a little more sturdy, maybe a paseo front sway bar, of coarse if i put the lowering spring on it i would have to get smaller rims which isnt a huge problem


Ah see I told you the lowing springs will be good lol

Kastigir
10-25-2008, 04:11 PM
More fun then a celica..........Cause a celica is a slug on wheels.
If you say so...

yankee7568
10-26-2008, 06:26 AM
If you say so...

Have you owned a turbo tercel? If not then WTF are you talking then?

Kastigir
10-26-2008, 07:19 AM
Have you owned a turbo tercel? If not then WTF are you talking then?
Are you serious? Throw a turbo on just about any car and it becomes more fun to drive. A *stock* Celica, is way more fun to drive than a *stock* Tercel.

91 Celica GT-S
10-26-2008, 12:09 PM
i drive an all trac and its much funner than any tercel so shut the fu(k up

yankee7568
10-26-2008, 01:41 PM
i drive an all trac and its much funner than any tercel so shut the fu(k up


Um lets see an all trac is not in the same boat as a tercel. Its AWD bud..

yankee7568
10-26-2008, 01:44 PM
Are you serious? Throw a turbo on just about any car and it becomes more fun to drive. A *stock* Celica, is way more fun to drive than a *stock* Tercel.


All I can say an auto Celica feels to heavy to me... An auto tercel feels way much better to me.. A tercel with rear sway bar, strut bar, front sway bay, anti lift kit, KYB and lowering springs with stock motor is way more fun then a celica...

But everyone likes differ cars...So there is no reason to cuss someone out for there liking in cars....

Kastigir
10-26-2008, 02:02 PM
All I can say an auto Celica feels to heavy to me... An auto tercel feels way much better to me.. A tercel with rear sway bar, strut bar, front sway bay, anti lift kit, KYB and lowering springs with stock motor is way more fun then a celica...

But everyone likes differ cars...So there is no reason to cuss someone out for there liking in cars....
You're still comparing apples to oranges. A Celica, equipped similarly, will still be more fun to drive than a Tercel. Not to mention, that driving an auto anything is pretty boring. I'm not cussing anyone out, and you're free to like whatever you like, but saying it's more fun to drive is false.

PhillyDRFT
10-26-2008, 04:00 PM
i drive an all trac and its much funner than any tercel so shut the fu(k up

Funner isn't a word.

sheep
10-27-2008, 05:39 AM
oh hey yankee i didnt even put you and tercelonline together lol just didnt dawn on me until now

anyway i didnt mean to start a fight, i thought my celica was a blast to drive and all it had engine wise was an intake. it sure was alot easier on the eyes lol

91 Celica GT-S
10-28-2008, 02:17 AM
Have you owned a turbo tercel? If not then WTF are you talking then?

no reason to cuss someone out??? your words. your comparing a turbo tercel to a stock celica. so i say all trac then you cry cause its all wheel drive.
arguing over the internets is useless. but i dont think you should go to a celica forum and and start saying a tercel is better. :smokin:

sheep
10-28-2008, 06:29 AM
no reason to cuss someone out??? your words. your comparing a turbo tercel to a stock celica. so i say all trac then you cry cause its all wheel drive.
arguing over the internets is useless. but i dont think you should go to a celica forum and and start saying a tercel is better. :smokin:


everyone can have an opinion, on another thread i just said an S2000 could beat a celica :burn:

yankee7568
10-28-2008, 12:35 PM
no reason to cuss someone out??? your words. your comparing a turbo tercel to a stock celica. so i say all trac then you cry cause its all wheel drive.
arguing over the internets is useless. but i dont think you should go to a celica forum and and start saying a tercel is better. :smokin:


i drive an all trac and its much funner than any tercel so shut the fu(k up

yep