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Shadowlife25
09-05-2008, 01:59 PM
I can build a high grade Vacuum Forming machine for about $350. It would be capable of producing plastic parts up to .25" thick and no larger than 10"x16".
I figured it would be perfect for making things like gauge pods or prototyping anything that fits within the size constraints.

If there is anyone interested in possibly kicking in a share to get this going sooner, please post up and let me know! :) Otherwise, I'll let you guys know when I get the cash together and have it built, but that may be a while.


-Mario

Conrad_Turbo
09-05-2008, 04:27 PM
That would be awesome! You could make wood bucks of what you want produced and then make it out of clear or colored plastic. I've always wanted to do something like that, definately post up progress pics if you go through with this!

Not sure if you are a member here: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=291

Might help you along if you needed any answers.

PhillyDRFT
09-05-2008, 04:41 PM
It's a nice project mario.

I built a medium sized one a few years ago using the heating elements from some donated toaster ovens, built the frame from steel tubing, made the basin and bed from peg board and a 30 gal Rubbermaid. And I used a 5hp craftsman shop vac for the suction. Dict tape and garage door seals etc lol It wasn't pretty but it did a good job. It only ran me around 100$ and it was a pretty fun project. Sadly when my garage was broken into they tore it to shit just to steel the shop vac.

They are a very fun and rewarding project. It's been posted on hackaday.com before one that was really close to mine, but I can only find articles for tiny ones.

dups90gt
09-06-2008, 01:37 AM
ok now i've read it. Cool, I can try and put one together this weekend, I have extra cash lying around here and there. Im just not sure where to get the plastic.. Ill have to search locally here in Canada. Ill post updates unless you get your done first.. I need the dimensions of the AVCR.

celica91gts
09-06-2008, 08:13 AM
let me know how it goes man. im really interested in this so if you need some help i'll try to send some money your way.

Shadowlife25
09-06-2008, 08:52 AM
I've got about $100 so far. I need to come up with the rest to build the rig.

I can get you the AVCR dimensions no problem.

celica91gts
09-06-2008, 09:19 AM
how much do you need? 350$? damn. its not much. but is 40$ ok?

Conrad_Turbo
10-09-2008, 06:32 PM
Tempted me...

http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-business-industrial-Vacuum-pumps-W0QQAdIdZ79484050

It's in my city, so if you want one let me know. I compared the prices to other online sources and they are much cheaper than anything out there (in the 5min search that I did). Give me a heads up if you want one.

Shadowlife25
10-09-2008, 08:31 PM
Sounds good. Gonna take me two weeks to come up with that though. I just paid all my bills. ;)
Nice find :bigthumbu

Conrad_Turbo
10-09-2008, 09:42 PM
No worries man, just surprised when I came across it and thought of you. :D

Shadowlife25
10-09-2008, 11:52 PM
That was really nice of you Conrad. :)
Pm me for a business proposition.

-Mario

BlueDragon
10-12-2008, 10:10 PM
if it means we can make some usable inserts or even flush mount style headlight cover things and you would make them ill donate some to this fund.
edit im talking projector style like 2 one for high one for low im sure youve seen them before.

Ryan
10-26-2008, 11:58 PM
like this?

headlights (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__89-93-94-NISSAN-240SX-S13-2-HALO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS_W0QQitemZ360101206806QQadiZ2865QQadnZCa rQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZV iewItem?hash=item360101206806&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A836|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318)

19celica90
10-27-2008, 12:32 AM
like this?

headlights (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__89-93-94-NISSAN-240SX-S13-2-HALO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS_W0QQitemZ360101206806QQadiZ2865QQadnZCa rQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZV iewItem?hash=item360101206806&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A836|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318)
:puke:

RedRkt01
10-29-2008, 01:01 AM
If we could make something like this I'd be all over it: http://s399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/redrkt02/?action=view&current=dec0711.jpg
I need that shit for my 4th Gens.

Unfortunately, I have too many expenses to cough up anything right now. Maybe when one of my swaps is done.

Shadowlife25
10-29-2008, 04:15 AM
You guys let me know.
Probably sounds harsh, but I'm not gonna front cash to build a rig and purchase materials + time to do something unless there is enough interest, and I can make something from it.
If there are enough folks/business owners that want something of this nature to offer, then I am happy to do it. :)

RedRkt01
10-29-2008, 03:41 PM
You guys let me know.
Probably sounds harsh, but I'm not gonna front cash to build a rig and purchase materials + time to do something unless there is enough interest, and I can make something from it.
If there are enough folks/business owners that want something of this nature to offer, then I am happy to do it. :)

Shadow, I feel ya. At this point in time what is it exactly that you are lacking to follow through? How much more cash do you need? How much more interest before you feel comfortable? I may just bite the bullet and work with you on this...............

ciento44
10-29-2008, 03:53 PM
like this?

headlights (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__89-93-94-NISSAN-240SX-S13-2-HALO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS_W0QQitemZ360101206806QQadiZ2865QQadnZCa rQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZV iewItem?hash=item360101206806&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A836|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318)


I would so rock these with a fairing over them, a la late model NSX.

Is this doable?

Ryan
10-29-2008, 07:17 PM
It should be..I was tossing around the idea, but idk

Shadowlife25
10-30-2008, 12:00 AM
RedRkt01: PM me and we can discuss thing further, as that would be a private matter. :)

Ben: It's totally doable if by fairing you mean a clear cover housing. Explain in detail or provide pics if I'm not getting it. :)

92-gt: Hi ! :p

Ryan
10-30-2008, 12:59 AM
Hi mario :wiggle:

grayscale
10-30-2008, 04:28 AM
Hmm, interesting Mario. I have spent a lot of time in industrial maintenance in plastics plants working with thermoforming and injection molding. I have also built and serviced countless molds and dies, so let me know if you ever need any help or info. 1/4" is actually quite thick as thermoforming goes but if you can do it you could make some pretty unique things.

Shadowlife25
10-30-2008, 04:47 AM
the .25" is a maximum possible thickness. At most for headlamp housings and such I think only 1/8" is necessary to maintain structural integrity and still be rugged enough for the automotive environment. Thoughts? :)

ciento44
10-30-2008, 02:32 PM
RedRkt01: PM me and we can discuss thing further, as that would be a private matter. :)

Ben: It's totally doable if by fairing you mean a clear cover housing. Explain in detail or provide pics if I'm not getting it. :)

92-gt: Hi ! :p


Like this....

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_DmPDyl-H61Y/RUMT19kgABI/AAAAAAAAAQI/khS_HJRNK_c/2002+Acura+NSX+(4).jpg

But in a shape that goes with the Celica body. So.... i guess something like the style headlights that 92-gt linked to, but fit for our cars, with a fairing similar to this style over it.

Ryan
10-30-2008, 11:27 PM
I think we could use the headlights i linked..

grayscale
10-31-2008, 12:18 AM
the .25" is a maximum possible thickness. At most for headlamp housings and such I think only 1/8" is necessary to maintain structural integrity and still be rugged enough for the automotive environment. Thoughts? :)
Might work, I was thinking 3-4mm which is right around 1/8". It just takes a little experimenting. What you'll find in thermoforming is that the corners of things become stretched thinner than other areas during the process, and, depending on the need for a minimum thickness on said corners for rigidity, your corner thickness will often dictate the thickness of the rest of your piece. Capice?

Shadowlife25
10-31-2008, 08:49 AM
Might work, I was thinking 3-4mm which is right around 1/8". It just takes a little experimenting. What you'll find in thermoforming is that the corners of things become stretched thinner than other areas during the process, and, depending on the need for a minimum thickness on said corners for rigidity, your corner thickness will often dictate the thickness of the rest of your piece. Capice?

I'm trackin. You and I should work on a buck for this.. :)

BlueDragon
11-01-2008, 04:34 PM
ready to donate whenever you guys decide to get going.... pm me with info plzzzzz these will look way good on a black car.... other colors not so much... but ya mines black so lets go!!!

RedRkt01
11-02-2008, 03:00 PM
Shadow.....I'll pm you soon........had a crazy last few days..........didn't forget about you........stay tuned.

v8killer
11-05-2008, 09:12 PM
so will this help me make 2-4" carbon fiber tubes with no seams and smooth inside and out?? if not how to do this?

Shadowlife25
11-06-2008, 04:07 AM
You would have to use an entirely different process for that.

grayscale
11-06-2008, 11:25 AM
so will this help me make 2-4" carbon fiber tubes with no seams and smooth inside and out?? if not how to do this?
You could do that with plastic with a very expensive extrusion die set up. However, I'm not sure you could with cf. Cf is made out of sheets and then formed, it's almost like a cloth in the beginning. I don't see how it would be possible for it to be seamless. I suppose you could overlap the edges and bond it the sheets, but it would leave a somewhat lumpy spot.
Curious- what would you use these for?

v8killer
11-17-2008, 10:35 PM
don't know and its eating at me not knowing. its been done before but i have no clue how there is a "seam" where the sheet ends but nothing you can feel