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KoreanJoey
06-18-2008, 08:49 AM
This is from a 04 or somewhere around there Camry that was towed into the shop last Friday.


http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img057.jpg
The picture is of the bottom of the valve cover. If you notice the shiny gold colored section that is the PCV baffle. If you look at the upper/center section you can kind of see how it's been broken away.


Well we found where it went.
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img055.jpg
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img056.jpg
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img054.jpg
Yes, that is the timing gear. It actually ATE the piece of baffle.


Now onto the head...
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img058.jpg
Notice how the valves are sitting. There are NO CAMS in it!!!


This is why the valves are still sitting off the valve seats even without cams.
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img059.jpg
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img060.jpg
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img061.jpg
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img062.jpg


The 2AZ is an interference motor (as are all chain driven Toyota motors, IIRC) and what happened is the baffle getting stuck in the timing gear cause the chain to jump some teeth, losing timing. And the valves contacted the pistons. Every single valve was bent...
http://celicatech.com/koreanjoey/Blowed%20up%20Camry/img063.jpg


Hard to tell in the pictures but the pistons are NOT supposed to have a divot there.



**Guess is that the discount auto lube place this guy was taking his car to was using the hardline oil guns instead of the soft tube oil guns and just jamming the nozzles into the oil filler. Eventually they hit it hard enough to break off a piece of the baffle.










CLIFFS:
1: Cheapest, weakest piece of metal in the entire engine causes complete failure of motor.
2: Don't go to auto express lubes.

CriScO
06-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Okay, the baffle is fairly flimsy metal, but to jam something in there hard enough that it snaps instead of just bending or breaking the connection points... Jesus Christ. That's barley even possible, how that guy managed it is almost incomprehensible.

Wow. At least that guy has your shop working on it now. Hopefully he realizes he's found a great mechanic and sticks with it so it doesn't happen again.

celicaGT90_05
06-18-2008, 10:46 AM
oh..ouch...thats painful. I'll bet that racked up quite a bill huh? This is why I do things myself, I dont really like the idea of someone else doin stuff on my car, at least unless I'm there to watch. I've never had a car go bad for anything I did *knocks on wood*

donteatbugs
06-18-2008, 11:55 PM
weaksauce 2az....

KoreanJoey
06-19-2008, 06:11 AM
oh..ouch...thats painful. I'll bet that racked up quite a bill huh? This is why I do things myself, I dont really like the idea of someone else doin stuff on my car, at least unless I'm there to watch. I've never had a car go bad for anything I did *knocks on wood*

Yeah I think the bill is somewhere in the 7K range... there was an insurance guy there yesterday (don't know if it's his or the shops) so we'll see if they cover it or not.

And oh yeah, the name of the shop is Auto Express and Espresso... apparently the flavor of his coffee was more important than the quality of the service.

celicaGT90_05
06-19-2008, 06:52 AM
lol sure sounds like it, I wouldnt be surprised if they lose a large chunk of their business after word of this incident works its course

KoreanJoey
06-19-2008, 07:40 AM
Not likely, Jiffy Lube is still around for some god aweful reason...

85gtsblackman
06-19-2008, 09:08 AM
coggin toyota where i used to work has the hard tipped heavy guns

KoreanJoey
06-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Yeah... hopefully someone warned you not to jam the nozzle into the PCV baffle.