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healy_gts
05-22-2008, 05:29 AM
I bought my 88 GT-S a couple months ago and have been learning lots about the 3SGE's and GTE's....i've been trying to find a parts car with a some what of a warn engine to build and tune to drop into my current Celica.....now i've found 2 identical GT-S's however i'm a bit confuesed on the engine identification....one, i'm told, has a 3SGEC engine and the other i'm told has a 3SGELC....i haven't heard of these engines until today and would like to know any differences if any.....thank you for your help

VikingJZ
05-22-2008, 05:39 AM
Never heard of a C or LC end code on a Toyoter engine.



The 86-89 GTS (Fourth Generation) had a 3SGE. The GT and such had the 3SFE, which was replaced by the 5SFE in 1990. The All Trac had the 3SGTE.

Who told you that nonsense? The only end C codes were usually California spec emissions equipped Toyotas in the 70's

healy_gts
05-22-2008, 05:45 AM
i found these cars in the paper and work 2 jobs so haven't been abale to look at them myself....i called the guy today and he was the one "claiming" these ident. numbers....ever since getting my celica i've became familiar with the 3S's 4A's 4S's 5A's 5S's and even some supre motors....i kinda figured these were bogus engine codes, just some dumb gimick to sell the cars....thank you for clearing it up for me

CriScO
05-22-2008, 06:03 AM
The technical engine code for your motor is 3S-GELC. Everyone just calls them "3S-GE" for short.

andy
05-23-2008, 06:16 AM
C means it has emmisions and stuffs

Rix86
05-23-2008, 07:27 AM
C means it has north american emmisions and stuffs
fixed.
the "L" in "3SGELC" is for transverse mounting.
later on they droppped the L's and the C's.

wizzards581
05-23-2008, 04:12 PM
C means: meets california standard emission... i dont think theres a difference whether one is or the other. toyota 22-RE engines are plated on the frame as 22-REC.

andy
05-23-2008, 10:15 PM
thanks! thats wut i meant though. :wiggle:

Rix86
05-24-2008, 07:11 AM
C means: meets california standard emission... i dont think theres a difference whether one is or the other. toyota 22-RE engines are plated on the frame as 22-REC.
No it does NOT mean california emissions.
Common misconception.
If that was the case, there wouldn't have been 4agelc with AND without california emissions. (there were)
same with 3sgelc, 2selc,22rec etc etc.