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celica91gts
03-26-2008, 08:23 AM
So me and a couple friends just installed an exedy clutch and findanza flywheel on to my car. while under the car taking it apart i couldn't help but realize that 5th gens are a bitch to work on. there are braces and reinforcements that have reinforcements bracing them! i thought it was going to be like a normal car. tranny is mounted to the frount and side motor mount... not the case. the tranny is connected to the frount, the driver side, and as well as the rear. pain in the ass. and then the axels... i donno if its all toyotas, but thier axels are hard as hell to get out. mine we seized out the ass. and while down there. i have to admit. my car's engine is not in the best of shape. look on to the pics and see all the oil thats leaked out of the engine over the last year or so.

anyways, on to the review. i havent broken the clutch in yet so there is not much to say. car definitely feels lighter due to the 10 lb flywheel. clutch is really really soft. surprised me. catches well though. the catch point is a lot higher compared to my old slipping clutch. i stalled like 4 times driving home. i felt like a noob. i was hoping you guys could help me figure out where the oil leak is coming from. im gona take it to the car wash and degrese it this weekend so i can see better.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/fieldplaya097/HPIM0244.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/fieldplaya097/HPIM0243.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/fieldplaya097/HPIM0242.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/fieldplaya097/HPIM0241.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/fieldplaya097/HPIM0240.jpg
yes, thats layers of oil on my cross member. its so dirty =(

grayscale
03-26-2008, 10:06 AM
Nice. Yeah, they do have a lot of reinforcement, but hen that's why they handle so well.
Your oil leak will be hard to diagnose without a whole lot of pictures, but the common trouble spots are-
-the valve cover
-the oil pump
-the oil pan
-the rear main seal
Valve cover is easy enough to spot once cleaned, it's the others that are difficult as the axles help to spread the leaking oil all over making it a pain to pin point.

geebes
03-26-2008, 04:06 PM
I can't wait to do my clutch...except the cost. I really like the ACT clutch on my Black car, and would like to put one on my blue.

burnyd
03-26-2008, 04:12 PM
yes they do have alot of reiforcement, Its so funny the st tranny comes out in less than 2 hours!

quark
03-26-2008, 04:17 PM
Jep its a bitch to work on. But the alltrac is worse.. Normally people wont go near a supra engine bay, but i tell you, the celica is really bad working on.. Iam almost 2 meters, and its killing my back.. Exedy cluths.. Hmm, not to ruin your mood, but I had pretty bad things about them. Fidenza is quality allthough, you call feel it when you have it in your hand, and man it is light.. Have one in the White supra. Spins pretty fast for a r6.

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 12:22 AM
me and my friend didnt have a tranny hoist. so he was down there lifting it with a jack and his arms and legs. it was quite a sight. while under there i saw the back of the engine block, and it seems the oil is coming somewhere from the top. could it be the head gasket or the valve cover gasket? also about my catch point being so high, i hear that you can adjust the catch point. is this ture? and how would i do so if it were?

KoreanJoey
03-27-2008, 01:15 AM
PLEASE tell me you changed the rear main while you were there.

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 01:29 AM
no i didnt. sorry. lol. at the time i was just trying to get the tranny back in and i figured id degrese it and then fix that next.

KoreanJoey
03-27-2008, 01:36 AM
*sigh*... well now you'll have to take out the trans AGAIN. Should have just done it while it was out. Was there any black residue in the bellhousing when you took it out?

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/3/6/5/DSCN6676.JPG

It looked at all like that it means your rear main is already leaking... (this was an EXTREME CASE)

Also you could tell on this car that the rear main was leaking due to the oil on the flywheel.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/3/6/5/DSCN6682.JPG

KoreanJoey
03-27-2008, 01:37 AM
A lot of the time a leaky rear main will speed up the decay of a clutch so keep that in mind as well.

celicaGT90_05
03-27-2008, 01:40 AM
yes, oil will kill a clutch, it really might have saved you in the long run to have changed the seal. Lets just hope. On another note, where did you get the clutch? Looks familiar to one that was for sale here not long ago...

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 01:52 AM
yeah, i bought it from jrctoofast or something.

celicaGT90_05
03-27-2008, 01:54 AM
thought so lol was an excellent deal, how is it?

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 02:00 AM
like i said. its real soft. i was pumping the clutch while my friend bled it out. when he told me to stop and capped it off i was like..... are u serious? softer then the stock clutch but it catches fine. is there anyway to adjust the catch point so its lower?

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 04:29 AM
bump for someone the answer my question please?

celicaGT90_05
03-27-2008, 04:31 AM
it sounds to me like you guys didnt bleed it properly

celica91gts
03-27-2008, 04:38 AM
it drove fine today so i dont think thats the problem.

celicaGT90_05
03-27-2008, 04:40 AM
it can operate ok, but still not be bled properly

cs363
03-27-2008, 05:00 AM
Pedal height should be 6.4-6.8in measured from the top (highest point) of the pedal pad to the asphalt sheet (sound deadening panel) on the kick panel. This is adjusted by removing the lower dash finish panel and air duct and then you'll see a bolt with a lock nut, adjust this until your pedal height is within spec.
Free play should be between 5-15mm (visually measured at the pedal pad), this adjusted via loosening the locknut on the m/cyl pushrod and turning the pushrod in or out to suit. Freeplay at the top of the pedal (the arm) should be 1-5mm.
Do it in this order and then recheck pedal height as the final step.

The hydraulic system can be a bitch to bleed properly and you may have to do a combination of vacuum or gravity bleeding as well as the standard 2 person method.
As Celica GT90 pointed out, it can seem to operate ok but not be properly bled and this is most often the cause of a 'soft' feeling clutch and pedal height issues.

KoreanJoey
03-27-2008, 07:07 AM
You don't have to remove anything, slide your seat back and stick your head under the dash.

But yes, sounds like it wasn't bled properly.