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Insan3
03-18-2008, 07:30 PM
what are the main differences between ? i allways own a gts so i dont know much. ( 5th gens) some1 help. please and thank you

burnyd
03-18-2008, 07:35 PM
Do a search you will find your answer.

celicaGT90_05
03-18-2008, 07:36 PM
well for one, the GT had the coupe option and the GTS didnt, but another thing is that the GTS has wider rear quarter panels and fenders. The GTS also had a couple higher end options that wasnt offered on the GT

Insan3
03-18-2008, 07:40 PM
well i am talkin performance wise ? like handling and engine ?

celicaGT90_05
03-18-2008, 07:49 PM
engine on the 5th gen was the same as the GT engine, the 5SFE. I think some also had a 3SGE, but that Im not 100% sure on. Otherwise, I beleive they had a little bit of a sportier suspension

ciento44
03-18-2008, 07:49 PM
well i am talkin performance wise ? like handling and engine ?

Same engine. Same drivetrain.

I've heard it had stiffer suspension, but i think that's a myth.

And it's heavier, so it's slower. HOWEVER, the plus side, and i envy this VERY much right now, is that the fenders are wide. Very wide. But heavy. A fully loaded GTS will turn the scale at around 3000lbs. Ugh.

And you can fit a lot of rubber under there.

But, i also hate weight, and i hate engines with a displacement less than 2.0 litres (unless it's a B17A) so, the GT Coupe was the ideal choice for me out of the 5th gens.

extremeskillz
03-18-2008, 07:53 PM
^basically a gt-s is a alltrac without the the 3sgte, awd, and couple other features. I like the GT_s over GT because of the ciento44 was appling. Wider fenders, looks better, etc :hehe:

Hiko
03-18-2008, 08:31 PM
I've heard it had stiffer suspension, but i think that's a myth.

Well, I can't confirm any spring rates or anything, but they the springs are listed as different parts for the different trims on 1sttoyotaparts. And being that they are all physically transferable, one can guess that the rates are the separating factors.

Past that, the major differences have been hit.

But the coupe still looks better. :D

celicaGT90_05
03-18-2008, 08:32 PM
meh, I wouldnt say looks much better, I like, maybe even prefer the narrow body

tuner4life
03-18-2008, 09:04 PM
The best thing that I like about the narrow body is that you can get all the same size rims (for rotational purposes) and the wheelbase doesnt look super narrow in the rear

I would rather have the narrowbody also b/c of the weight... Although I do like the hatch over the coupe, at least for now b/c that's what I have.

The only time I would probably choose a wider celica is if it's an All-Trac.

Corey Darling
03-18-2008, 09:21 PM
I'm torn between the two.

The wide body looks amazing from the front quarters. But takes some wide wheels or spacers to fill those arches.

The normal body has its angles also, and its much easier to fill the arches. The front wheels on my car actually stick out about 1cm. But i think ill still install 5mm spacers in the rear to bring the back wheels out a bit more.

The difference in weight hugely significant between the Wide and Normal body. Maybe 50-100 lbs.


My normal body Four weighs in at 1480 kg with half a tank of fuel. Thats about 3260 lbs.

Newbster
03-18-2008, 09:34 PM
Yeah I have a GT coupe (narrowbody), and mine is tipping the scales around 2600 w/o driver. The difference includes aftermarket sunroof(basically hole), 12 inch subwoofer, big amp, and some engine weight reduction (no ac, other misc things taken out).

Insan3
03-18-2008, 09:58 PM
thanks for the info people !

Newbster
03-18-2008, 10:43 PM
mmmm, very refreshing sig...

Insan3
03-19-2008, 12:00 AM
thanks !

Murgatroy
03-19-2008, 05:24 AM
The GT-S came widebody and hatch only. It also had automatic climate control.

It is heavier than all but the ST185.

I like the looks of it, but performance wise, an ST or a GT coupe is a better starting point.

I prefer ST, Chaos weighs in at 2300lbs with me.

extremeskillz
03-19-2008, 12:38 PM
Well, you haters, i don't race so im sticking with the gt-s, lol. :hehe:

celicaGT90_05
03-19-2008, 12:52 PM
I will admit extreme, your car probably wouldnt look near as good with those wheels if it were a narrow body

extremeskillz
03-19-2008, 12:58 PM
^True, i wouldn't have bought them if it were a narrow body. I do have good tastes ;-). Im gonna get spacers for the rear wheels to bring them out a little, not much. Ive always loved the 5 star and staggered pattern wheels and when i found these on clearance i jumped all over them. 450 i paid for these, retail was 900.00 for the set.