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grayscale
03-09-2008, 02:40 PM
I'm having a hell of a time figuring out exactly what the correct part is. I need rear wheel bearings for a 92 Celica GTS w/ABS. This is where I run into a problem. There seems to be 2 different bearings for the st185 and st184 yet I can't seem to figure out which I need as both refer to w/o ABS everywhere I look. Why would ABS be a defining factor for the bearing anyhow? I'm inclined to use the st185 bearing but even 1sttoyotaparts shows w/oABS. I also noticed that one bearing is very wide like the front bearings, while the other is a bit narrower. Any part numbers of any brands that you know for a fact are correct would be a big help.

RedRkt01
03-09-2008, 03:47 PM
Here you go:

AT180, ST184 Rear Axle Shaft Bearing: 90369-30044
ST185 Rear Axle Shaft Bearing: 90369-38003

I have a Toyota EPC. When you get to the menu it shows both systems (w/ABS and w/oABS). The difference is that from the bearing out to the lug nuts most everything is different. The bearing is the same though. I ran a cross reference check to see what models use this bearing and it came back with everything from MR2s to Camrys and ST162s in between. The bearing case is the next part outward to the lugs and it is really the part someone needs to be carful about getting right with respect to having ABS or not. In fact, it isn't even really about ABS so much as is about what your lug pattern is (4 or 5).

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Hope this helps

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grayscale
03-09-2008, 06:21 PM
Good info, thanks. Could you tell me what the front bearing pn# is? I don't suppose I could get a copy of that EPC could I?

RedRkt01
03-09-2008, 06:28 PM
ST182 GTS platforms run the 5S, right? I'll see what I can pull up. As for the EPC, I'll see what I can dig up on copying this info. I might be legally barred from copying it for you; I have a gov't job and can't piss off the feds by breaking the law. Therefore, if it is copyrighted material then I won't be able to help you. We'll see what happens.

grayscale
03-09-2008, 09:31 PM
I can't buy the bearing seperately? What is the point of having to buy the whole hub?

Galcobar
03-09-2008, 10:24 PM
ST182 GTS platforms run the 5S, right? I'll see what I can pull up. As for the EPC, I'll see what I can dig up on copying this info. I might be legally barred from copying it for you; I have a gov't job and can't piss off the feds by breaking the law. Therefore, if it is copyrighted material then I won't be able to help you. We'll see what happens.

ST184 had the 5SFE, 182 and 183 got the 3SGE.

RedRkt01
03-09-2008, 11:09 PM
ST184 had the 5SFE, 182 and 183 got the 3SGE.

I'm not sure who got what model. I'm inclined to think that N. America got 182s while europe and Australia got the 183s and 184s. Maybe this is because I'm a 4th Gener, but I don't recall 3SGE making over to the states for the 5th Gen. Is there any truth to that? Somebody educate me without writing a thesis on it.

Galcobar
03-09-2008, 11:32 PM
No, North America got the weaker 5SFE, which came in the ST184.

The 3SGE came in the ST182 and ST183 (183 had four-wheel steering), and never made it to North America after the fourth-gen Celica.

RedRkt01
03-09-2008, 11:53 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought....I just got the models numbers mixed up. I knew the 3SGE never made to the states. It's such a shame that the GTS got saddled with a motor like the 5SFE......the 5th Gen GTS is a sleak, sweet looking car that deserves the GE. I can't quite understand why NA got all the bottom of the barrel engines. Perhaps the requirement of an EGR for USDM makes it impractical to export them to us.

RedRkt01
03-10-2008, 12:12 AM
Good info, thanks. Could you tell me what the front bearing pn# is? I don't suppose I could get a copy of that EPC could I?
The pn for the front bearing is 90363-36001. You can pick that bearing off of almost any Celica: ST184, ST204, SXV-20 Camry, SXA-15/16 Rav4. Let me know if you need anything else.

grayscale
03-10-2008, 02:23 AM
Not that I didn't believe you, I just get tired of some the parts crap, bearings that can't be replaced separately. Why is it then that we can replace the front bearings without having to replace the whole hub? How about dumping the abs?

grayscale
03-10-2008, 02:37 AM
A quick parts search shows that pn#90369-30044 was superseded by pn#9036930002.
Pn#90369-38003 was superseded by pn#9036940018.
Interesting note- the front bearing can be purchased from 1sttoyotaparts for less than an aftermarket one from a parts store.

KoreanJoey
03-10-2008, 07:26 AM
Lawl...

Luni
03-10-2008, 11:10 PM
Ive replaced them on an MR2, I cant see them being totally different on a Celica.

We used aftermarket Timeken (I think thats the band name) bearings and it worked fine. Just had a shop use a press and puller.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/hubdiagramdeally.jpg

On an MR2, that piece seperates. Red piece spins independantly of Blue piece. Bearing goes between R and B, and a shop with a press and puller should still be able to seperate the 2 and replace the bearing the spindle turns on.

Again Im just speculating, celicas might not be the same, but we have replaced hub bearings on an MR2 before and it has ABS.

Apparently this is just another reason why the MR2 > Celica

On an MR2 you can just use the same bearings between abs/non abs and a press/puller to change em. Sell the Celica, get an MR2 Cannon. :p JK LOL.

grayscale
03-11-2008, 09:42 AM
Sell the Celica, get an MR2 Cannon. :p JK LOL.
Ah, if only I had the budget you do.:D
I actually have my own press and equipment for doing such a thing, the problem is I have no idea what bearing to use. As you pointed out, MR2 bearings are the same, but maybe ours are too. I guess I may just have to make a discovery.