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JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 07:16 AM
Well, its together and running.. after 3 years :)
Just a refresher before I get to the pictures,
1994 Celica base
Engine-
JDM 165HP 3SGE
Ported head
3SGTE oil squirters
Eagle 4340 rods
Wiseco 8.8:1 piston kit
Port matched intake manifold
Under manifold secondary injectors (x4)
MA70 Supra TB (60mm)
ECU-
AEM 1121 ECU
GM 3-bar map
AEM UEGO
Custom laptop mounting bracket
Fuel-
310cc primaries
462cc secondaries
Mallory billet filter
Supra TT pump
Aeromotive regulator
Ignition-
Magnacore wire
Crane PS91 coil
Turbo system-
.50 trim T3/T04E w/ .63 A/R 4 bolt
Stock 3SGTE manifold w/ custom adapter
My 44mm wastegate design
blacked out custom FMIC
Vortech BOV (changing with my own design soon)
2" before IC, 2.5" after
2.5" downpipe
3" exhaust
wastegate dump pipe
Drivetrain-
S transmission w/ 3SGTE clutch and pressure plate
Building a 99 Solara trans with a Quaife ATB
Misc.-
Eibach springs
Susp. tech. swaybays
GT rear discs
GT nose

All pipes/fab work done by ME

http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl1.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl2.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl3.jpg

JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 07:26 AM
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl4.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl5.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl6.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl7.jpg

JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 07:27 AM
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl8.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl9.jpg
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl10.jpg

Trance4c
12-04-2004, 07:27 AM
Yes.. nice, the question is how much does it make? Nice setup, I expect good numbers :D

JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 07:31 AM
Its limited to 5psi and 5-6K for break-in... but it still feels pretty quick :) It going to be hot.

JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 07:36 AM
Oh and the A/C and cruise control still work :D

Sean
12-04-2004, 10:31 AM
Yeah buddy!!!! Ill be down in Portland next year for chiro school, we need to meet up!

Lagos
12-04-2004, 12:43 PM
very very nice. way to think outside the box!

id lover to see some larger, brighter pics. the ones you posted are a little hard to see.

Fenix
12-04-2004, 03:51 PM
Wow!! That is really impressive. But i've got to ask, why didn't you start off with a 3S-GTE?

Keep us posted :)

JGS3SGE
12-04-2004, 05:45 PM
I didn't start with a 3SGTE for a few reasons...
-I don't like the TVIS era of engines
-The standard 3SGTE intake manifold is funky
-I planned on a full build
-I love the dual plentum/runner intake manifold of the 2nd gen 3SGE
-2nd gen 3SGEs are cheap

Sorry, my cam sucks not to mention semi-flat black is my theme.
I'm all the way down here in siberia, AKA Coos Bay. My shop is planning on installing a dyno after the first of year so I'll be able to put down some numbers.

ibanezgfx
12-04-2004, 06:08 PM
looks awsome dude

Mike431635
12-04-2004, 06:25 PM
That is awesome, man! Small pics but I enjoyed them nonetheless. Can't wait to see what kind of numbers that baby puts down.

mikeswickednick
12-04-2004, 07:18 PM
I didn't start with a 3SGTE for a few reasons...
-I don't like the TVIS era of engines
-The standard 3SGTE intake manifold is funky
-I planned on a full build
-I love the dual plentum/runner intake manifold of the 2nd gen 3SGE
-2nd gen 3SGEs are cheap

Sorry, my cam sucks not to mention semi-flat black is my theme.
I'm all the way down here in siberia, AKA Coos Bay. My shop is planning on installing a dyno after the first of year so I'll be able to put down some numbers.

where did u get ur 2nd gen 3sge and for how much, im looking for one for my NA mr2

Sean
12-04-2004, 07:56 PM
What do you figure your compression is at? Did you measure it? Dyno plots are a must!

JGS3SGE
12-05-2004, 02:48 AM
Its been years since I bought my engine and it was through a friend of a friend... typical JDM engine, beaten hard. Needed a new crank, valve job, etc. I added all new pumps, etc as well. I can't remember what I paid, but there where just engines on e-bay for $400-$800.

My compression specs are pretty close to the std. 3SGTE numbers last I checked (maybe a little different now that the rings have set)... keep in mind its been fitted with Wiseco 8.8:1 pistons and the combustion chambers should be the same.

The initial shock is over, its time more boost as soon as I get my break-in miles over with :evilgrin:

JGS3SGE
12-05-2004, 05:27 AM
Today's work

http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl11.jpg

My homemade PCV catch can :wiggle:

Sean
12-05-2004, 10:58 AM
Why the AC? You might regret that in the long run! Im a big fan of spacious, open engine bays, but then again, talk about a huge date turn off when she pushes the AC button and nothing happens :(

Anyways, whos tuning that bad boy? I heard the guy (Sean) at Torque Freaks is a phenominal tuner with the AEM.

JGS3SGE
12-05-2004, 05:18 PM
I'm my own tuner :arr: I'll have my own 1100HP dyno with eddy current (for variable load to nail down every cell of that fuel & timing map)soon. I have no desire to pay out $800 for a tune and then have to drive back up to portland 10 times (250 miles each way) so they can work on the bugs. I know they're the hotshots with AEM, but this isn't my first or last standalone :wiggle: I like having a car where I can say I have built/designed/tuned every thing with my own two hands.

Besides the AEM makes it pretty damn easy :)

A/C :lolhittin the locals ask me the same thing...
Stripping the A/C doesn't really make a car faster and there is nothing like taking your buddy (who has the traditional A/C done been ripped out tuner car) for a ride on a hot day :woot: I think having a HPU car with A/C is really a statement of good engineering :) .
Also side note I didn't want to rearrange the belts to truely ditch the A/C.

medivh66
12-05-2004, 05:33 PM
looks really good. but the real question is do you have your laptop setup so it will warn you of any danger to the manifold? :arr:

JGS3SGE
12-05-2004, 05:45 PM
:lolhittin
The laptop is just for p0rN

Sean
12-05-2004, 07:56 PM
:lolhittin
The laptop is just for p0rN



Thats awesome

Well, i hope to see your setup, run on your future dyno, and hear more about this beast in the future! Great work man!

david in germany
12-05-2004, 10:04 PM
angry propellers! :bowdown:

Trance4c
12-05-2004, 10:37 PM
A/C :lolhittin the locals ask me the same thing...
Stripping the A/C doesn't really make a car faster and there is nothing like taking your buddy (who has the traditional A/C done been ripped out tuner car) for a ride on a hot day :woot: I think having a HPU car with A/C is really a statement of good engineering :) .


Not necessarily.. I had a/c here in FL over the summers with my swap which a lot of people where like.. wowa! thats awesome. But really is so simple to make it work a monkey could do it. Since I have removed it and all the a/c system, I just don't see the use for it in a car like this anymore. Its all in perspective though bro.

Sean
12-05-2004, 11:32 PM
Theres also a good 100lb loss if you rid your car of the entire system.

For me, it wasnt about the weight, the shorter belt, i just like open engine bays. That really freed up a lot of room w hen i took that out!

JGS3SGE
12-06-2004, 01:00 AM
Trashing A/C when its not nessary to do so is just well...
R totha I totha C totha E :thumbsdow
To me anyhow... Around here its every little rice boy's first mod :puke:
Sean, did you weight your car afterwards? Most A/C systems are around 50-60lbs. 50-100lbs is nothing when you have 400+HP
My car already doesn't have any options as it is, crank windows & manual locks... at 2700, my car is no porker.
SO call me a weiner if you want, I like my A/C :laugh:

JGS3SGE
12-06-2004, 01:04 AM
For me, it wasnt about the weight, the shorter belt, i just like open engine bays. That really freed up a lot of room w hen i took that out!

I tried all the shorter belts... I couldn't get any of them tight :( From what I could see it was going to take a huge idler to get tension... thats why I decided to keep the A/C.
Did I miss something :/

Sean
12-06-2004, 01:23 AM
Wow, did you just call my practices rice because i like to have space in my engine bay to do things?

Sort of confused here....

Between the compressor, the condensor, the evaporator, all the lines, and the contents by the glove box, theres easily 50+ lbs there, i would say closer to 70.

My AC worked like a champ, a lot of the systems componets clutter the engine bay, and make is a pain to do things. I also removed my cruise control system, still rice?

Lets not clutter this thread of your accomplishments with AC talk, back to the good stuff!

JGS3SGE
12-06-2004, 02:08 AM
I definately wasn't tring to say removing A/C is strictly rice,
But most believe it to be worth more than it really is.
If you removed it to make more much needed room (like I did with my SHO powered probe), that is certainly not rice.
It is rice to believe just because you droped your A/C, your car is automatically faster than every other car with A/C. As long as its not staying on all the time, its just a little bit of dead weight.
Enough of the damn A/C then :D

Put some more miles today, the wife dislikes it :lol: those JDM cams sure are noisy...heh heh. It needs some work on the accel, that 60mm TB along with the dual pentum that just works on vacuum (for now) really can make it studder. Cold start is still a beitch partly because there is no IAC valve working right now :(
Other than that it ripps, snorts, and drives very nice.

XXX_Mina
12-06-2004, 05:35 AM
well, you gotta remove ac, vents and everything that has to do with air conditioning to get any weight difference, as for performance, the shorter belt might add 5hp , just like intake, exhaust and spark plugs make a world of difference when it comes to hp...

Mina

JGS3SGE
12-06-2004, 09:24 PM
Come on people, even the Lotus has A/C why can't I :D
5 hp doesn't mean crap to a car with more HP than the tires can handle :thefinger

JGS3SGE
12-07-2004, 03:25 AM
A few more pics

http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl12.jpg
Under side of the intake manifold, secondary injectors
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/cl13.jpg
My wastegate- 44mm valve, O-ring diaphram (survived 1 million cycles), all cnc machined.
http://www.harborside.com/~lhumbert/40revo.jpg
A 3D model of my NEW wastegate :D 40mm valve, nomex silicone diaphram, etc. should be hot :wiggle:

gt_turbo
12-07-2004, 03:29 AM
wow you are quite the creator! great job
ac does rock! too bad i don't have it anymore tho

Toyota_Todd
12-07-2004, 04:14 AM
Nice clean install and custom work. Your hired. :bowdown:

Sean
12-07-2004, 10:51 AM
Enough teasers already, dyno plot please!