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Frenchy
12-16-2007, 08:37 PM
Ok, so I bought this car from a girl I kind of know... it's a 1992 Celica GT, 5spd, 4wheel disc brakes, blah blah blah... anyways...

She said the car goes into Reverse and moves, however, if she puts it in 1st, it doesn't go anywhere...

Now, I went to a mechanic the other day and talked to him about this issue, adn he knows the Celica rather well, and he said that what may have happened is that a cable for 1st/3rd may have come loose, and that I shoudl try moving the car in 3rd, and if no luck, try moving it in 2nd...

So if that's the case, how would I fix this?

Sorry if I'm a pain, but the other Celica forum I'm on, it's not as active..... :lolhittin

celicaGT90_05
12-16-2007, 08:44 PM
if the cable is lose, then connect it back up properly, if its broke, then you'll need to replace the shifter cables. I believe you'll be able to take off in 2nd

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 09:05 PM
See that's what the mechanic was saying, if I can move in Reverse, the tranny isn't shot, plus the clutch is grippy as all hell... so I know it's not that..

Any links where I can just go and buy new cables?

burnyd
12-16-2007, 09:47 PM
this happens all the time its actually pretty common... theres two shifter cables.... what your going to want to do if your not really mechanically inclined it look at the two cables that come out of your shifter to your transmission.... theres going to be 2 clamps that hold those two shifter cables down to where they attatch to the transmission... assuming this girl bang off the gears real hard.. because well she is a girl lol... these two clamps always need to be replaced.. you can grab them out of a junkyard for a dollar and theyll take a minute to pull out if you have a flat head screw driver... try that first!

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Do you have any pictures, or anything, to explain better?

grayscale
12-16-2007, 10:47 PM
Sorry if I'm a pain, but the other Celica forum I'm on, it's not as active..... :lolhittin
You're no pain, that's why we're here. Ask as many questions as you need to. :bigthumbu
I'll try getting you a pic as soon as I can if no one else has one already.

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 10:59 PM
Ok sweet, cuz to me, this makes no sense, but to my roommate, it will, and well, I won't see him for about a month...

So, my problem, does what burnyd said, sound like the correct diagnosis? Cuz it's sounding like what the mechanic I talked to, said.

grayscale
12-16-2007, 11:00 PM
Most likely.

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 11:04 PM
So in all honesty, it's nothing major then, hey?

Approx. how much time is involved in fixing this?

grayscale
12-16-2007, 11:06 PM
30 mins. tops.

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 11:11 PM
Damn.... not bad at all!

So, you want to give me a write up on how to do this? ;-)

Also, there are no junkyards around my desolate area that deal with import cars...

So, I'm gonna have to go buy the cables new, if it needs them, or maybe just the clips...

What are they called, exactly?

grayscale
12-16-2007, 11:19 PM
What are they called, exactly?
Now you've stumped and I can't seem to find them in the catalog.

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 11:21 PM
Hahaha, damn...

Well, hrmm, keep looking!

Are these things, something I can get at like a Napa?

And around how much would they cost, you think?

grayscale
12-16-2007, 11:26 PM
I'm not sure if local parts places carry them, if they did I wouldn't expect them to more than say $5.

burnyd
12-16-2007, 11:31 PM
your really only going to be able to find them from the dealer..... I cant seem to find a picture of what it looks like but if you look at your transmission youll see the two cables that go into it.....

I guess you can call them shifter cable clamps lol?

Murgatroy
12-16-2007, 11:38 PM
Shifter Cable Retainers.

grayscale
12-16-2007, 11:41 PM
PN#s?

caneman
12-16-2007, 11:45 PM
So in all honesty, it's nothing major then, hey?
Approx. how much time is involved in fixingthis?http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30840

celicaGT90_05
12-16-2007, 11:49 PM
Hahaha, damn...

Well, hrmm, keep looking!

Are these things, something I can get at like a Napa?

And around how much would they cost, you think?

Napa carries a LOT of obscure parts. Advance nor autozone carried the individual o-ring I needed but napa did, though they wanted a couple more dollars than the dealership did. So if they dont have it the dealership deffinately should be able to get it in, most likely you'll need to order it

celica91gts
12-16-2007, 11:58 PM
i dont think the cables broke cuz correct me if im wrong. dont the celicas use rods? i think its the rod getting loose.

Frenchy
12-16-2007, 11:58 PM
Ok, I checked that link, and I'm not finding anything that will help me out... :-\

Maybe I'm just missing it...

Murgatroy
12-17-2007, 12:12 AM
i dont think the cables broke cuz correct me if im wrong. dont the celicas use rods? i think its the rod getting loose.
No, the Celica uses cables.

celica91gts
12-17-2007, 12:17 AM
N00b

Frenchy
12-17-2007, 12:32 AM
n00b = who?

If me, I am a n3wb... not a n00b...

Sorry.

burnyd
12-17-2007, 01:00 AM
your making it alot harder than it has to be haha! Here have someone shift the gears... you will see what will move.. theres two cables that connect to an actuator.... you will se exactly what Im talking about...other wise just take a picture of the top of your tranny ill show you exactly where it is.

Frenchy
12-17-2007, 01:07 AM
Alright, but earlier you stated it's quite common, how common is quite common?

And wouldn't you think theyd' have made stronger clips for this, by now?

grayscale
12-17-2007, 01:10 AM
Its common due to the age of the cars, not that the clips themselves are weak.

Frenchy
12-17-2007, 01:12 AM
Oh, so if like, I shifted rather hard, which I never really do, I shouldn't have anything to worry about?

grayscale
12-17-2007, 01:28 AM
Nope

burnyd
12-17-2007, 02:06 AM
ive went through so many of those little clips throughout all the celicas I have had...

Frenchy
12-17-2007, 02:38 AM
What makes you go through them?

Is this a problem, I'll eventually have to endure?

alltracman78
12-17-2007, 09:32 PM
Bad installation.
People pull them and don't reinstall them securely.
Corrosion will hold them in place if they've never been touched.
Once they've been pulled they tend to get "unbent', losing some of thier locking ability.
Also, because they're a PITA to get at they're not always pushed all the way in and sometimes aren't installed straight.

burnyd
12-17-2007, 09:43 PM
What makes you go through them?

Is this a problem, I'll eventually have to endure?

dude, it will take you 2 mins and 75 cents to get your issue taken care of.


alot of times they will just pop off if shifting gears too hard.. plus its just an older car things break.

Frenchy
12-18-2007, 01:49 AM
Lol, I figured it wasn't a huge issue, but thing is, the car is up at school, and I haven't picked it up yet...

So, once I get it, I'm gonna get these clips, and fix this thing...

Frenchy
12-18-2007, 09:54 PM
So, I just called the dealership, the clips are $2.07 a piece, he couldn't order them for me, cuz he needed my VIN number, and I don't have that right now... :-\

But just so you know, they aren't very expensive brand new...

burnyd
12-18-2007, 11:18 PM
the toyota dealer needs your vin # to purchase a shifter cable clamp lol?

alltracman78
12-18-2007, 11:38 PM
They don't know Celicas the way we do, they see 100s of Toyotas each day.
The best way to ensure they order the correct part is having a VIN.
This greatly cuts down on returns, receiving the wrong parts, and hassles.

Frenchy
12-19-2007, 03:12 AM
Ya, turns out, right after I called them, I found the VIN number on the title transfer paperwork I had in my pocket...

Der...

Frenchy
12-20-2007, 05:34 PM
So, now these are under the shift boot? Or, am I wrong here?

I got the clips today, and I am gonna be heading over there in 20 minutes, or so...

alltracman78
12-21-2007, 01:37 AM
No, on the transmission.
There are 2 brackets the cables sit in.
The clips hold each cable in it's bracket.