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placilla
12-09-2007, 01:07 AM
I purchased an engine for my 86 Celica GTS (3SGE), supposed to be one of those Japanese engines with 40 to 60K miles. I decided to replace the front seal's, timing belt and water pump since it would be easy. While taking the water pump out I could not get that Phillips screw out and had to drill it out. When I got the water pump out I found this. Is it normal? Should I be worried? Should I continue or return the engine?

celicaGT90_05
12-09-2007, 01:11 AM
no that is NOT normal at all, but it doesnt mean you need to give up on the motor. Try spraying out all the crap you can while you have the pump off, I took a garden hose when I replaced my grand prixs water pump to my inlets and hoses to spray everything out, then after you get it back together flush the system and fill it back up, you should be ok

Hookecho
12-09-2007, 01:30 AM
holy shite. looks like the motor was leaking coolant and what you see there is a bunch of stop leak. you should call the company you bought it from and ask for a replacement. the leak could have been in the radiator, but it could have also been in the motor. thats no good.

Cavanagh
12-09-2007, 01:32 AM
Ewwww

celicaGT90_05
12-09-2007, 01:33 AM
true...I dont beleive in stop leak

grayscale
12-09-2007, 03:35 AM
Chances are good that if it clogged up the water pump that bad then many of the smaller passages in the internals could be clogged completely. If you keep it, then it is highly recommended that you get it boiled.

placilla
12-09-2007, 04:48 AM
Chances are good that if it clogged up the water pump that bad then many of the smaller passages in the internals could be clogged completely. If you keep it, then it is highly recommended that you get it boiled.

I really wanted to get the car running this weekend, but know I don't know. What do you mean by boiling the Engine and how? Im leaning towards trying to return the engine, but I cleaned the mess the best I could already. So I dont know what they will say. I also installed the seal's, but they weren't that expensive.

Hookecho
12-09-2007, 04:57 AM
the real concern isn't the stop leak, but the fact that it had to be used. it's possible that the block has a cracked water jacket. it may not be the case but it's not worth risking. what you do know is there is a problem with coolant leaking. the only real way to investigate it properly is to pull the head and visually inspect the block and head. you need to get a replacement or refund.

grayscale
12-09-2007, 05:08 AM
A good example of why it is important to buy an engine with the proper tests performed buy the seller such as leakdown, comp. etc... I don't really see how coolant could have even been circulating through the system well if at all.

Sean
12-09-2007, 05:25 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/2/100_0860.JPG
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/2/100_0854.JPG
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/2/100_0852.JPG
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/2/100_0849.JPG

Gotta love "Stop Leak", "Alumaseal" and so on. Kept my cracked block together for a little while longer.... In the mean time, it clogged up my number two water bypass pipe completely (headed to the turbo), as well as most of the water jackets in the head.

Call your engine company.

Sean
12-09-2007, 05:26 AM
Yours is also probably from running non-distilled water, looks mostly like calcific, and other minerals and goods from household water.

VikingJZ
12-09-2007, 05:33 AM
If your home has a water softner it supposedly should be fine. HOWEVER, that pump is shot. I would say adios to that engine and be extremely pushy with the company you got it from.

Did you buy from Jarco? If so, I'd be very surprised because they're pretty good about stuff.