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Mafix
10-25-2007, 11:23 PM
Just trying to see who thinks they can really drive and what platform they are doing it on.

ME
Front Front
and damn good

burnyd
10-25-2007, 11:24 PM
Ryan!

also, a real drag racer saves all of his slips and backs up their time; nhra rules.

Hookecho
10-25-2007, 11:30 PM
i drug around a piece of duct tape that was stuck to my shoe for a while today.

T-spoon
10-25-2007, 11:31 PM
I could get good at it, but lack experience. Went to the track once with an MR setup, started out terrible but had 60 foot down just under 2 seconds before I left. Every car is going to take time to get used to on the track, they don't lauch the same as on the street, obviously.

burnyd
10-25-2007, 11:32 PM
I could get good at it, but lack experience. Went to the track once with an MR setup, started out terrible but had 60 foot down just under 2 seconds before I left. Every car is going to take time to get used to on the track, they don't lauch the same as on the street, obviously.

I cant remember what you had done to your mr2? I was hitting 2.0s and just barely under with 205 tires... seemed like if you slipped that car enough you would get the perfect launch out of it.

T-spoon
10-25-2007, 11:37 PM
I cant remember what you had done to your mr2? I was hitting 2.0s and just barely under with 205 tires... seemed like if you slipped that car enough you would get the perfect launch out of it.

Well, that was the 91 MR2, never tracked the 93. The 91 was in rough shape. The motor was thoroughly beaten on and the tranny had shifting problems before I got it (was like, 7th owner). It was running stock turbo at 140k miles at 15psi, open 3" dump, greddy IC and that's pretty much it. Also.. had front wheels from a MKIV on teh back at the time, which while entertaining didn't help at all since that meant not much sidewall and more mass to rotate off the line. Had to drop tire pressure a bunch just to get it to launch. By the last run the tranny was having so much trouble getting into 2nd and 3rd gear I had to pack it in. Oh.. the tach didn't work either, previous owner had installed white face gauges and put the needles on wrong. But yeah, it was a fun learning experiance.

burnyd
10-25-2007, 11:41 PM
Well, that was the 91 MR2, never tracked the 93. The 91 was in rough shape. The motor was thoroughly beaten on and the tranny had shifting problems before I got it (was like, 7th owner). It was running stock turbo at 140k miles at 15psi, open 3" dump, greddy IC and that's pretty much it. Also.. had front wheels from a MKIV on teh back at the time, which while entertaining didn't help at all since that meant not much sidewall and more mass to rotate off the line. Had to drop tire pressure a bunch just to get it to launch. By the last run the tranny was having so much trouble getting into 2nd and 3rd gear I had to pack it in. Oh.. the tach didn't work either, previous owner had installed white face gauges and put the needles on wrong. But yeah, it was a fun learning experiance.


lol, heres a SLIP from my car when I just had the catback exhaust I still had that Stock cat on the car just gutted it...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/s5030235.jpg

Mafix
10-26-2007, 01:30 AM
like i said let me know when you come down i'll hand you the pile of slips for this car.

Sean
10-26-2007, 02:00 AM
Wrong section.

FF I have probably 150 passes under my belt, and I still suck.

moving

TheNefariousOne
10-26-2007, 02:08 AM
FF just sucks for dragging w/o slicks, a good suspension, and a good LSD. Basic physics.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 04:08 AM
like i said let me know when you come down i'll hand you the pile of slips for this car.

pile of slips and no camera? :laugh:

Hookecho
10-26-2007, 04:19 AM
mafix, why don't you just take a pic of the time slip and post it up?

andy
10-26-2007, 05:00 AM
put up or shut up dood, im tired of this argument. also, drag sucks take it to the twistes. and ryan would win.

donteatbugs
10-26-2007, 04:16 PM
awd will win.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 06:54 PM
1 my camera is old i tried posting pics up but they are blurry. my vid camera works fine but noone believes me because it's over my buddies low 13 mustang. sorry if i use my vid camera for more than one thing. and drag is all i've got here so that's what i do. to each his own right? and i have competition tires, full built suspension, and lightened body. and i'm damn good driver. i'm sorry that you guys can't understand that and/or that you guys cant drive and/or build a car worth a shit.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 07:05 PM
1 my camera is old i tried posting pics up but they are blurry. my vid camera works fine but noone believes me because it's over my buddies low 13 mustang. sorry if i use my vid camera for more than one thing. and drag is all i've got here so that's what i do. to each his own right? and i have competition tires, full built suspension, and lightened body. and i'm damn good driver. i'm sorry that you guys can't understand that and/or that you guys cant drive and/or build a car worth a shit.

nobody is asking you to go to your extreme here.

Just for a slip of paper.

kthanksbahhh

Mafix
10-26-2007, 07:12 PM
would you like me to mail one to you? or perhaps that's too much to ask? oh wait you can't even get off your ass to come here.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 07:17 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/mafixcelica/scan0001.jpg
here weiner. this is my first pass. i'll eventually get the other one up.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 07:26 PM
would you like me to mail one to you? or perhaps that's too much to ask? oh wait you can't even get off your ass to come here.

lol, because Im going to drop my entire weekend and blow off all my hockey games and drinking this weekend to go to MIR? If you really went 13s off of 8-9 psi then thats awesome... would like to see some proof...

Also if your making 350hp off of a ct26 awesome....

as enthusiasts all of us here can you show us some proof?

burnyd
10-26-2007, 07:29 PM
okay you have a pic of one... you should have another one to back it up due to n hra's rules... and assuming since you are a "drag racer" you know them right? Or a pic with your tach # of 810... and to go 1/8's of 5 sec passes lol.. sounds like your buddies mustang.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 07:52 PM
and no i'm not making 350hp on a 26. 2 cars buddy. and i'll scan the 13.76 pass when i get a chance. not easy to do at work. and that's not a mustang jackass. the car next to me (eddie) was a 66 chevelle wagon that was not running good at all.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 07:53 PM
oh and BTW don't ever quote the rule book to me hockey nuts.

and learn to read that's a 9 sec 1/8th

burnyd
10-26-2007, 08:04 PM
oh and BTW don't ever quote the rule book to me hockey nuts.

lol, please... The last time I was at MIR it was for building a dedicated drag car that went on national tv.

and how do you pickup only 20 miles on a car that makes only top end lol?

Sounds like you did the same thing with the video your buddy made just flim flamming time slips.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 08:27 PM
what? you're a fuckin retard.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 08:29 PM
i'm just guessing that you think you can make a fast car too? last 2 cars i've worked with were a 7.20 nhra comp b car and a prototype FI bigblock that's running 6 sec passes. take you rookie ass home man.

Mafix
10-26-2007, 08:30 PM
and just a little more ass frosting. look at the vid. OMG it's the same time slip? how strange???

burnyd
10-26-2007, 08:41 PM
i'm just guessing that you think you can make a fast car too? last 2 cars i've worked with were a 7.20 nhra comp b car and a prototype FI bigblock that's running 6 sec passes. take you rookie ass home man.

so you built a celica... :laugh:

Mafix
10-26-2007, 09:25 PM
yes jackass, i don't have 120+k to spend on a drag car. nor do i have the resources to fund such a car. anyways it's obvious (just like everytime) that you are a spoiled child who can't wipe their own ass without asking mommy for 100 dollar bills. i'm done with you.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 09:41 PM
yes jackass, i don't have 120+k to spend on a drag car. nor do i have the resources to fund such a car. anyways it's obvious (just like everytime) that you are a spoiled child who can't wipe their own ass without asking mommy for 100 dollar bills. i'm done with you.

your right.. mommy and daddy built all of my race cars that go 13's and pay for my bercanstock sandles and popped colared pink shirts!

:laugh:

Mafix
10-26-2007, 09:42 PM
ha i'd like to see 1 of your cars out run me.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 09:46 PM
ha i'd like to see 1 of your cars out run me.

believe it or not my car is down due to issues that I HAVE TO PAY FOR!

but I would have no problems going to mir to race you there running 6psi on race gas... :laugh:

Mafix
10-26-2007, 09:46 PM
again get your facts straight.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 09:48 PM
again get your facts straight.

haha, what was it 8psi on teehh race gaasssaaa?

Mafix
10-26-2007, 09:55 PM
nope. see you have no clue what you are doing. no wonder your car doesn't run.

burnyd
10-26-2007, 09:57 PM
nope. see you have no clue what you are doing. no wonder your car doesn't run.

your right... I didnt make my car run more rich by running race gas at a low amount of boost... lol.


It has nothing to do with my synchros lol.

T-spoon
10-26-2007, 10:00 PM
You two seriously need to just shuddup already. Lame argument. :wedge:

sloceli
10-27-2007, 08:12 AM
I've maxed out the CT26 with a stock tune and pulled a 13.88.
R/T .125
60' 2.055
330 5.835
1/8 8.931
MPH 79.36
1000' 11.629
1/4 13.880
MPH 100.14

I was putting down 205 whp with the stock cat in place. When I install my 20B and get a good tune I should be in the mid 12's

Hookecho
10-27-2007, 02:01 PM
so are you saying that 13.88 is only achievable with at least 17psi? i just wanna know if it can or cannot be done with 9/10psi on a stock motor. then this thread can die.

sloceli
10-27-2007, 02:31 PM
The CT26 will not hold 17psi, the max on that run was .99 bar or something like that. As you know you will not build full boost in first gear. When I shift from 1st to 2nd my RPM's drop to about 4500. This is when the 26 starts falling on its face. I might see 1 bar right after I shift but it will soon drop to .94 bar and hold there until redline. The only way to get 17 psi is maybe new cams.

Like I said this is on a stock tune. Look at Lagos he's in the 240 range with a SAFC. With proper tuning there might be a chance to hit the 200hp mark at 9 psi.

Mafix
10-27-2007, 03:34 PM
weight plays a huge factor in this. i've lightened mine as far as i care to without loosing integrity of the chassis (good ol unibody) 2700lbs with me and a full tank of gas is feather light for a 4th gen.

vip09
10-28-2007, 06:15 PM
I could pull a 13.7 in a 3s swapped 4th gen with all that weight reduction.. no problem.

The 7th gen GTS has went 13.7 with just an intake and tuning with weight reduction. He made 174whp on the dyno and ran 13.7 @ 101mph.

Hookecho
10-28-2007, 06:58 PM
well, it seems that it's definately possible to run 13.8 or better in a 4th gen with a stock 3s. so my next question is why is it so hard for some of you to believe mafix ran that?

burnyd
10-28-2007, 09:52 PM
so are you saying that 13.88 is only achievable with at least 17psi? i just wanna know if it can or cannot be done with 9/10psi on a stock motor. then this thread can die.

lol... 190hp, on 1-2 more lbs than roughly stock is barely 8hp maybe...

Not only that he says he was on race gas at 9psi which would hurt alot more than help at that point.


13s wont come on a ct26 till you max out the efficiency of it... 14-16psi....

keep in mind joel had a good tune and a 2nd gen 3sgte.. mafix has a 1sg gen 3s on bolt ons and 1-2 more psi.....

burnyd
10-28-2007, 09:53 PM
well, it seems that it's definately possible to run 13.8 or better in a 4th gen with a stock 3s. so my next question is why is it so hard for some of you to believe mafix ran that?

well sir, when we asked for a video and a timeslip last time he uploaded a video and a timeslip of his buddies mustang racing his chevelle or something like that...


then when he had his record shattering low psi slip he simply uploaded the slip from his buddys chevelle....

burnyd
10-28-2007, 09:54 PM
I could pull a 13.7 in a 3s swapped 4th gen with all that weight reduction.. no problem.

The 7th gen GTS has went 13.7 with just an intake and tuning with weight reduction. He made 174whp on the dyno and ran 13.7 @ 101mph.


yes this is all motor compared to forced induction though...

its a completely different car although same platform.... plus your at sea level... times are completely different where we live.

vip09
10-28-2007, 10:23 PM
yes this is all motor compared to forced induction though...

its a completely different car although same platform.... plus your at sea level... times are completely different where we live.


The guy that ran the 13.7 lives in cali.


I think mafix could probably pull a 13.5 with a good launch.

burnyd
10-28-2007, 10:34 PM
well thats great and all I think mafix could of ran a 9 sec pass with a great camera.

Sean
10-28-2007, 10:57 PM
Cool it dude.

Mafix
10-29-2007, 12:23 AM
i love the ignore list!

Sean
10-29-2007, 03:41 AM
Thanks for doing that Mafix :) It shows how mature some of us are! Bernita, wise up boy.

burnyd
10-29-2007, 03:45 AM
Thanks for doing that Mafix :) It shows how mature some of us are! Bernita, wise up boy.


so if I told you my alltracmade 1000whp at idle you wouldnt ask for proof? Then I told you well the reason its different from all other st185s in the world is because I put race gas and had a hand made suspension on it? Then I sent you a video of my friends car lol?

Come on... accuse me of being immature but, Im not a liar, Im not spreading totally bullshit information , and Im not making up timeslips..

T-spoon
10-29-2007, 04:55 AM
so if I told you my alltracmade 1000whp at idle you wouldnt ask for proof? Then I told you well the reason its different from all other st185s in the world is because I put race gas and had a hand made suspension on it? Then I sent you a video of my friends car lol?

Come on... accuse me of being immature but, Im not a liar, Im not spreading totally bullshit information , and Im not making up timeslips..

I'm waiting to see why this is important enough to keep going on about. Actually no I'm not.. because.. I don't care! Noone else does either! Find something else to harp on already. :slap:

vip09
10-29-2007, 05:15 AM
You can harp on me Dan.. I'm going to run 11's with my TD06!!! :bigthumbu

burnyd
10-29-2007, 05:57 AM
You can harp on me Dan.. I'm going to run 11's with my TD06!!! :bigthumbu

im not going to harp you your the real deal the"ultimate celica driver"

youll ul timeslips!

Lagos
10-29-2007, 06:41 AM
this thread is funny. you have 2 guys... trying to argue over what? .2 tenths of a second?

dan, it IS totally possible for someone to run a better time then you did in a swapped celica. the boost he hit when he ran is totally pointless. i dont know anyone who keeps an eye on their boost gauge at all times during the run. you can set your boost at 8psi on the highway, but youll almost always creep to 14 in these cars, during a full run through the gears.

Sean
10-29-2007, 07:54 AM
who cares, grow up dude (burynd)

KoreanJoey
10-29-2007, 08:15 AM
keep in mind joel had a good tune and a 2nd gen 3sgte.. mafix has a 1sg gen 3s on bolt ons and 1-2 more psi.....

WTF are you talking about good tune?

His MAP-ECU2 has barely had any run time. Still in learn mode w/ NO tuning whatsoever.

Cheeks
10-29-2007, 04:27 PM
I say we ban burnyd!!!!!

Fuelish
10-29-2007, 08:14 PM
I raced (actually, ran away from...) a guy in drag once .... he might've been faster under ideal conditions, but .... trying to run in high heels, a skirt, makeup, and a fully lodaed purse worked against him/"her" ;) ;)

T-spoon
10-29-2007, 08:25 PM
I raced (actually, ran away from...) a guy in drag once .... he might've been faster under ideal conditions, but .... trying to run in high heels, a skirt, makeup, and a fully lodaed purse worked against him/"her" ;) ;)

This begs the question.. why were you running?

Didn't pay?

extremeskillz
10-29-2007, 08:28 PM
:haha:

extremeskillz
10-29-2007, 08:28 PM
:laugh:

Mafix
10-29-2007, 09:25 PM
this thread is funny. you have 2 guys... trying to argue over what? .2 tenths of a second?

dan, it IS totally possible for someone to run a better time then you did in a swapped celica. the boost he hit when he ran is totally pointless. i dont know anyone who keeps an eye on their boost gauge at all times during the run. you can set your boost at 8psi on the highway, but youll almost always creep to 14 in these cars, during a full run through the gears.

avc-r with a full ported exhaust housing. no big creep for me. worst i've seen is about half a pound of creep.

Lagos
10-29-2007, 09:40 PM
you must not have a full 3in exhaust then.

Mafix
10-30-2007, 01:47 AM
actually aussie DP with 3" side pipe. i made the system and bought the DP. it's full 3". the ported wastegate helped a bunch on keeping down the over boost. that and i tune the avc-r in 4th gear with TVIS actuated. so in the lower gears i'm pushing less then stated and in 3-5th it's about what is stated. i don't have my standalone in so i can't really datalog but i can extract highest values and what not so i know i'm not overboosting.

TurboTRDCelica
11-02-2007, 03:03 AM
This is rediculous but to add to the retardedness of this subject
I ran a 13.2 with a swapped ST185RC 4th gen gts, but I was running 16psi, on 111octane, RC has maps past 12psi on up to 18 I beleive, base timing retarded 2 degrees, with water injection also full 3" exhaust from the turbo to the tailpipe, and boost creep happens on all stock ct26's with 3" open exhaust, Usually doesn't happen till over 6500rpm but it will creep. external wastegate or a CT27 will fix that.

Lagos
11-02-2007, 09:10 PM
^nice!

burnyd
11-02-2007, 09:16 PM
This is rediculous but to add to the retardedness of this subject
I ran a 13.2 with a swapped ST185RC 4th gen gts, but I was running 16psi, on 111octane, RC has maps past 12psi on up to 18 I beleive, base timing retarded 2 degrees, with water injection also full 3" exhaust from the turbo to the tailpipe, and boost creep happens on all stock ct26's with 3" open exhaust, Usually doesn't happen till over 6500rpm but it will creep. external wastegate or a CT27 will fix that.

well youve been around for a while your a pretty CREDIBLE guy... your running twice the amount of boost on a RC ST185 motor! Hes on 8psi on a st165 motor. < - cliffs...

and your not keeping in mind with all the lies and all the bullshit that this guy has attatched with him.......

Mafix
11-02-2007, 09:29 PM
well i don't really go over 6500rpm so perhaps that's really helping with not creeping as well. i'm hitting the track on the 18th at 12.5 psi so i'll be getting a nice new time slip. especially since it's cold out, the turbo will work great i just hope she sticks to the ground.

burnyd
11-02-2007, 09:44 PM
^^ at mir you can walk across the track and your feet literually stick to the ground... yes even in oct/nov.

Sean
11-05-2007, 04:58 PM
This is rediculous but to add to the retardedness of this subject
I ran a 13.2 with a swapped ST185RC 4th gen gts, but I was running 16psi, on 111octane, RC has maps past 12psi on up to 18 I beleive, base timing retarded 2 degrees, with water injection also full 3" exhaust from the turbo to the tailpipe, and boost creep happens on all stock ct26's with 3" open exhaust, Usually doesn't happen till over 6500rpm but it will creep. external wastegate or a CT27 will fix that.


A large chunk of CT27 owners have issues with boost creep, be it down pipe interference, VE, or actuator malfunctions.

I dont recall my CT-26 ever creeping.

Mafix
11-06-2007, 01:39 AM
honestly if i was to spend the money on a NEW turbo, i would get a NEW turbo, not a manifestation of the 26. no offense to ATS.