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supra97
08-16-2007, 04:19 AM
So for the last little while, my manual transmission has been grinding when shifting, particularly downshifting, and quite noticeably in 2nd and 3rd gear.

I took it into a shop and they said the synchro rings need to be replaced. They also recommended doing the bearings while the transmission is apart anyways. It's going to run me a good thousand bucks plus.

Since I am somewhat of a noob, I want to know if it's worth it to fix, or would I be better off to look at a new tranny altogether? I don't know how much a transmission would cost me. My car's a 92 GT-S with a 5SFE, pretty plain jane. I know some of you guys probably have transmissions kicking around from your swaps and whatnot, and if you were willing to sell them for cheap and stuff, would it be cheaper for me to get a tranny off one of you and have it shipped here or to buy one here?

I am just really not sure what route to go since I don't even know where I would find a new transmission around here. The car's driveable for now, but it is a pain in the ass.

I also want to make sure I'm not getting raped with the price for the repairs.

Thanks guys :)

GT4SOM
08-16-2007, 04:52 AM
To pay 1000 bucks you're better off buying a lower milage tranny from a junker and put that in. Thats just to replace syncro's and some seals? Not really worth it IMO.

burnyd
08-16-2007, 05:09 AM
1k for a entire rebuild sounds about right...

Most of the time you can get a celica trans thats low mileage from a junkyard for around 400 bux if not less.

Also post more pics of yourself.

Best of luck to you.

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:13 AM
I <3 how the pic thing always comes up.

I didn't realise it's an entire rebuild. Ugh...lame. I guess I will start trolling the yards...problem is of all the yards within 100 miles of here there are very few 5th gen Celicas.

burnyd
08-16-2007, 05:19 AM
I <3 how the pic thing always comes up.

I didn't realise it's an entire rebuild. Ugh...lame. I guess I will start trolling the yards...problem is of all the yards within 100 miles of here there are very few 5th gen Celicas.

then get a 6th gen trans!

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:20 AM
Here you go. I do so like the flattery :)
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1783/blah011zf7.jpg

TheNefariousOne
08-16-2007, 05:21 AM
Even if it's not an entire rebuild, the labor hours to tear everything down, replace what needs to be replaced, and re-assemble is what kills ya on price.

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:23 AM
Yeah he said that's what's expensive..

Would a 6th gen transmission fit fine? Those cars are even rarer around here..

I wish I could get a 7th gen...six speed would rock.

burnyd
08-16-2007, 05:25 AM
Here you go. I do so like the flattery :)
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1783/blah011zf7.jpg

cool! I need some excitement here and there with all this celica stuff honestly.

burnyd
08-16-2007, 05:26 AM
Yeah he said that's what's expensive..

Would a 6th gen transmission fit fine? Those cars are even rarer around here..

I wish I could get a 7th gen...six speed would rock.

6th gen transmission is amoung the same transmission just stronger synchros in it... same gearing and all.

I wish a 7th gen would fit fine in my celica st it might be able to go above 100mph then lol.
Did you check car-part.com do they have a section for canada I think they do?

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:39 AM
I've never heard of that site until now so I suppose I'll take a gander!

I <3 you burnyd, even though I'm not around too much anymore :).

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:42 AM
Eeeek look what I found on that TOTALLY awesome site in the city right nearby me!

1994
Transmission
Toyota Celica 3DR;HB;FWD;2.2F;5MT; FL;GT [400-60064] ,S 119,792
--km--
192,902 3I6927 $Call Import Auto Recyclers Can-BC(Abbotsford) E-mail 1-604-857-2211

That's what I want right?

supra97
08-16-2007, 05:43 AM
1994
Transmission
Toyota Celica GTS,2.2L,5MT,TESTED OK 51,575
--km--
83,052 A 002808 $Call EZ Auto Parts Can-BC(Surrey) E-mail 1-604-580-8590

Found this one too...the next closest one after this one is too far away. So out of the two which should I go for?

burnyd
08-16-2007, 05:48 AM
I <3 you burnyd, :).


my job is done here!

TheNefariousOne
08-16-2007, 06:25 AM
Definitely the second one supra, it's got much lower mileage.

And, I mean this in the least leg humping way possible, but you have a phenomenal body. :D I like all kinds of girls, but I definitely <3 skinny girls most of all.

:bigthumbu

burnyd
08-16-2007, 06:28 AM
Definitely the second one supra, it's got much lower mileage.

And, I mean this in the least leg humping way possible, but you have a phenomenal body. :D I like all kinds of girls, but I definitely <3 skinny girls most of all.

:bigthumbu


get your own celicatech girlfriend!

supra97
08-16-2007, 06:31 AM
Thanks ^_^

TheNefariousOne
08-16-2007, 06:51 AM
get your own celicatech girlfriend!

Why do that when I can steal yours? :hehe:

Plus, everyone knows I have the superior cawk.

burnyd
08-16-2007, 07:26 AM
Why do that when I can steal yours? :hehe:

Plus, everyone knows I have the superior cawk.

yah your interweb penis must be huge :laugh:

TheNefariousOne
08-16-2007, 07:34 AM
Yep.

On the internet, everyone can have 12 inch dongs!

Murgatroy
08-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Keep it in Off Topic.

85gtsblackman
08-16-2007, 02:46 PM
yeah a 94 celica has an s54 trans which is better anyway, just rpm will sit a tad higher on hwy

supra97
08-17-2007, 04:51 AM
Okay so the one with 192000 kms on it is $500.00, and the other one (I was a bit wrong) has 83000 kms on it and they want $750.00.

I'm thinking pay the extra two fifty and get the lower mileage one...but just wanna be sure. What do you guys think?

wrongboy
08-17-2007, 02:29 PM
Lower mileage seems better, but see if you can barter your way down to $675. Hell, flirt if you have to - this is your car for Christ's sake. These prices are $Can?

Also; I love you? I'll buy you things?

vms4evr
08-18-2007, 04:50 AM
Supra97 -

The 2-3 synchros go in almost all manual trans first. They get the most workout at the most RPMs typically. To extend their life while you are looking to fix your trans. Don't wind it up so tight in 1st and 2nd. Don't downshift from 3rd to 2nd. Once you get down to 3rd just push the clutch down and use your brakes. Honestly there is little to be gained using engine braking to slow down unless it is an emergency stop and you are needing everything you can. Think about it. A worn out clutch costs about $1,000 if you pay a mechanic to replace it for you. Front brake pads maybe $200 tops. Do the work yourself your still in at least $300+ for clutch and throwout bearing and a ton of work to do. Front brake pads, $50, an hour of your time. Be nice to your clutch. Use it to speed up, not slow down.

My 90 GT has the same problem. Maybe not so bad as yours. Check your shifter. Does it shift sloppy, lot of free play? I notice when I shift from 2nd-3rd that if I just move the shifter in a diagonal line it grinds easily. Do an actual H-pattern, up, over, up. Then it shifts in smoother. Shifter needs to be rebuilt with fresh bushings.

Buy the used tranny. Pay the $750 for the one with half the mileage. Just keep in mind you have no idea how that tranny was treated. So it doesn't mean it will be great. You always take a chance with salvage yard parts. The other option is a complete rebuild. That will cost all of $1,000 to be done right. Get quotes from several shops for a full rebuild. There is no point opening up a tranny only to replace a couple of synchros bearings. You could probably buy a complete re-manufactured one and trade yours against it as a core if it's available.

Btw, nice picture, you're a cutie.

supra97
08-18-2007, 09:40 AM
Thanks for the tips on downshifting, I didn't know all that and I do it all the time. It makes sense to put more wear on the brakes (which also need to be done haha).

And I always shift using the actual "H" pattern...I only started driving stick a couple months ago, and a couple times I would go into the wrong gear by accident, so I try to be careful about that and make sure I feel exactly where the shifter is going.

The other problem now is a shop is going to charge at least $500 bucks to take the old tranny out and put the new one in. So either way I go I'm looking at about the same price. I couldn't put it in myself...I've done some work on my car but I'd need somebody there to at least guide me along. I don't have anyone around to do that.

And yeah, the prices are Canadian. Also, how do I know for sure that the mileage is correct? What if they're just saying that?

celica91gts
08-18-2007, 10:47 AM
Yeah he said that's what's expensive..

Would a 6th gen transmission fit fine? Those cars are even rarer around here..

I wish I could get a 7th gen...six speed would rock.

if ur having tranny problems i recomend u dont get a 7th gen..... cuz thier tranny's are fragile as hell.... my ex had an 02 gt. 5 speed the bearings went bad. i hear the gts 6 speed are just as bad.

burnyd
08-18-2007, 02:35 PM
if ur having tranny problems i recomend u dont get a 7th gen..... cuz thier tranny's are fragile as hell.... my ex had an 02 gt. 5 speed the bearings went bad. i hear the gts 6 speed are just as bad.

it has nothing to do with the transmissions in the 7th gens it has everything to do with the gender! Majority of women just cant drive.

supra97
08-18-2007, 08:17 PM
It's very true. Up here where I live, if somebody's doing something stupid, just about every time it's an Asian, an East Indian, or a woman. Not to stereotype but those are the facts. Some Asians, some east indians, and some women (^_^) can drive, but the majority...ugh.

burnyd
08-18-2007, 09:07 PM
It's very true. Up here where I live, if somebody's doing something stupid, just about every time it's an Asian, an East Indian, or a woman. Not to stereotype but those are the facts. Some Asians, some east indians, and some women (^_^) can drive, but the majority...ugh.

hahahahahahaha

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

thelaw604
04-10-2008, 10:44 AM
I guess it's better to bump an old thread than start a new one. I am looking for a new tranny as well for my 92 gt.

Is the 6th gen tranny a straight swap in the 5th gen?

KoreanJoey
04-11-2008, 03:33 AM
Yes... you'll probably have to keep the speedo sender from your old trans and drop that into the 6th gen as I "think" the 6th gen speedo sender is electronic instead of mechanical.

*shrug*