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Lagos
06-27-2007, 05:46 AM
i did a claybar and wax on my car for the first time. its pretty amazing how much of a difference it made. really brought out the shine and took all the years of built up dirt off the car. well worth doing!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/lagos3sgte/crank%20it%20up%20for%20the%20cure/IMG_0596.jpg

celica91gts
06-27-2007, 12:18 PM
ive never understood claybar... whatt he hell is it? u can tell from me jsut saying that that ive never done it either. but usally i wash and wax using meguaires only. cant u just take dirt and dust off from a good wash and wax it for a good shine? so like, what do u mean when u say it took off all the dirt? sorry..., im a noob at cleaning, u'll have to excuse that.

celica91gts
06-27-2007, 12:19 PM
ur car really does look amazing from the work u've put on it by the way

b1ackhawk
06-27-2007, 03:12 PM
claybar is essential just what it sounds like, a bar of clay. You rub it on the surface of the car, as if your wetsanding, and it PULLS debris out of the paint that you wouldnt normally be able to wash off. Makes the paint nice and smooth, and gives it an even better shine.

Custom_Celica
06-27-2007, 03:48 PM
What stores carry claybar? ive been looking to pick one up but have yet to find one

Shadowlife25
06-27-2007, 05:19 PM
Mothers makes a kit. They'll usually have them at Kragen and it's like.

geebes
06-27-2007, 05:38 PM
I really wanna try it, especially after seeing the shine on lagos' car.

celica91gts
06-27-2007, 05:51 PM
sorry im asking this. i could probably go buy one and read the directions but im intrested on how u apply the clay bar to ur car. is it like u said? u just rub it on ur car? u dont have to buff or anything?

balagast
06-27-2007, 07:33 PM
If you get a clay bar kit it will come with a detailing lubricant. You use it after a good wash and dry of the car, by spraying the lubricant, and rubbing bar back and forth lightly, making sure to always have the surface lubricated. You will notice that the spot is cleaned when you don;t feel the bar "picking up" little bits of dirt etc from the finish. I love the claymagic clay bar, but the meguirs works well too.

Lagos
06-27-2007, 09:30 PM
its basically like a magic eraser you use on your car. it cleans off all the years of build up that normal washing wont get out. you can get a claybar kit at any parts store for about 15bucks. its very safe and easy to use.

celica91gts
06-27-2007, 09:52 PM
im gona go ahead and give it a try.... its summer and i got a crap load of free time on my hands before school starts up again.

geebes
06-28-2007, 12:08 AM
Did the mothers one...shiney!!!

Lagos
06-28-2007, 12:31 AM
Did the mothers one...shiney!!!


now go rub the side of your hand against the car. its like silk.

andy
06-28-2007, 12:40 AM
i LOVE your car

geebes
06-28-2007, 07:58 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/2/7/3/7/DSC_1153.JPG

Silky smooth! :bigthumbu

Kindof a crappy day to show off the shine, but I liked this one anyway...
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/2/7/3/7/DSC_1174.JPG

PhillyDRFT
06-28-2007, 09:21 AM
It might just be the picture angle but why do your fenders and quarters look huge? like 80mm overs lol.

The car looks great though, one of my favorite 6gc's.

celica91gts
06-28-2007, 11:47 AM
how long does it take for u guys to claybar ur car? just wanna know so i canset asside some time for it.

geebes
06-28-2007, 05:04 PM
It took me like an hour and a half for washing, claybar, and wax.

celica91gts
06-28-2007, 06:42 PM
oooo. so claybar is just a cleaning step. u have to wax afterwards too. shit .... my hands are gona be numb from useing my buffer. haha

Lagos
06-29-2007, 12:06 AM
yeah, but you dont need to use a buffer. just wax it by hand. buffers tend to leave lots of swirl marks.

TEAMFaint
06-29-2007, 12:13 AM
How hard is it to use a claybar? I heard if not used correctly it could damage the paint.

I cleaned my whole car the other day for its appraisal, gave her her first wax as well, and damn she looks good. Next time I would like to use a claybar before hand though.

P.S Meguiars cleaner wax works wonders. But just wondering if a different wax would work better?

Gary
06-29-2007, 01:39 AM
It's not hard at all. Try it in a small area first. If you do it right you should be able to "feel" it. The surface should feel smooth like glass.

Cavanagh
06-29-2007, 11:48 PM
It might just be the picture angle but why do your fenders and quarters look huge? like 80mm overs lol.

The car looks great though, one of my favorite 6gc's.
Ya i noticed that too.

Hmm..I've always been meaning to pick a clay bar kit up...

vip09
06-30-2007, 05:06 PM
That 6th gen is HOT! I'm jealous Lagos.

I'm getting a claybar kit TODAY.

andy
06-30-2007, 05:09 PM
go fix your alltrac you f00z

vip09
06-30-2007, 07:55 PM
go fix your alltrac you f00z

I am working on the alltrac today!! I picked up a clay bar kit today when I was getting some degreaser from the auto parts store.

I got the Mothers kit for $16.

gt lifthback
07-01-2007, 06:44 PM
post some pictures once the job is done i want to see that best of an alltrac you are building

VikingJZ
07-06-2007, 12:21 AM
I finally have a car worth doing the claybar to.

My 5G GT wasn't even paint...lol

Decepticon ST205
07-11-2007, 09:01 AM
I have never heard of these claybars but seeing the endorsement from Lagos is enough for me to dedicate a weekend to trying it out. Just wondering though, I know when I get my car valeted that they use a polishing compound that takes a microscopic layer of paint from the car to get rid of any blemishes. I am assuming the claybar works on a similar principle and that you should limit using it to a couple of times a year?

I would go and RTFM but I am not sure that they sell this product here in Ireland. :D

Lagos, even without the heavenly shine from your car it looks like an awesome drive. :bigthumbu

Audi90Quattro
07-11-2007, 11:15 PM
Claying a car and polishing a car are two different things all together. A clay bar is used to remove bonded contaminants from your paint surface prior to polishing, that way you don't pick up dirt and debris in your polishing pad and create more swirls. Polishing is done afterwards to remove swirls, minor scratches and other forms of micro marring. After a polish either a glaze is applied followed with an LSP or straight to an LSP.

You don't need to use the quick detailer spray either that they give you with the clay kit, you can wash your car and while its still wet use the wash solution as your clay lube.

Of course you need to make sure you're using quality car wash solution and not just dawn dish soap. Claying does not remove paint but improperly used can can more scratches than before. Make sure to fold and knead the clay after each panel or in the middle of a panel depending on how much debris you pick up.

Decepticon ST205
07-13-2007, 10:38 AM
Thanks for that. It sounds like something I should experiment with before I have a go at my pride and joy. Perhaps my mates Civic >: )

Audi90Quattro
07-14-2007, 03:39 PM
ITs really not hard at all. Autopia.org is a wonderful site for detailing and they have an even better write up on using detailing clay. Heres the link If you'd like to do some reading. http://guidetodetailing.com/articles.php?articleId=14

smog7
07-15-2007, 05:16 AM
ok so you have to wax your car after using claybar?

Gary
07-15-2007, 06:09 AM
ok so you have to wax your car after using claybar?
Yes.
After using clay bar, you will have bare paint.
You need something to protect it.

Lagos
07-16-2007, 07:34 PM
ok so you have to wax your car after using claybar?

you dont HAVE to, but its a good idea to do so since the paint is so clean and read for a nice coat of wax.

Lagos
07-16-2007, 07:39 PM
ITs really not hard at all. Autopia.org is a wonderful site for detailing and they have an even better write up on using detailing clay. Heres the link If you'd like to do some reading. http://guidetodetailing.com/articles.php?articleId=14

great article. must read for anyone with questions about claybar.

Audi90Quattro
07-17-2007, 02:13 AM
Since I've found that site I've learned so much there. I'd highly recommend that site to anyone that wants to learn how to properly take care of a cars paint finish.

85gtsblackman
07-17-2007, 08:01 PM
i kid u not the last 5 times ive gone to detail the celica and scooby , its rained

so i have the next 2 days off ill try to do em, the gts needs it bad

Sean
07-19-2007, 02:22 AM
Yep, clay bars work great.

alltracman78
07-20-2007, 03:38 AM
I spent 5 hours last Friday in the detail bays at work cleaning up the 92.
Claybar and all.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/6/3/clean001.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/6/3/clean002.jpg

Shadowlife25
07-20-2007, 03:59 AM
I take it you didn't wax it yet? I just ask because the water should be beading in a pretty uniform fashion if you did.

alltracman78
07-20-2007, 04:13 AM
It's actually acrylic, not wax.

But yes, it's covered.

Kiasis
07-24-2007, 04:46 PM
I use all Maguires stuff (gel wash and 3 stage wax process). However, on a recommendation, I tried the Turtle Wax Ice liquid clay bar yesterday. I would not pass along the recommendation. Yes, it was easy to use and my paint was a bit smoother, but not the same as real clay by a long shot. In the future, I will stick w/ either Mothers or Maguires and use the real deal, not liquid.

GTJohn
07-24-2007, 05:01 PM
I also tried the ICE liquid clay bar and it didn't do a thing to my paint. I could barely tell where I had applied it and where I hadn't.

alltracman78
07-25-2007, 03:22 AM
The Mothers and Maguires isn't the "real deal" either.
At least the versions I've seen.

I got my claybar from the detail guys at work.

85gtsblackman
07-25-2007, 12:23 PM
down here ive seen all the dealership detailers use the clay magic blue clay bars

i need to go get one today

91PinkCeli
07-28-2007, 07:01 AM
Yea I will comment on the ICE liquid claybar. It's the biggest waste of money, don't even bother, stick with a real claybar. It barely removed anything from the paint and all I ended up with was a sore arm. lol.

Kiasis
07-28-2007, 11:56 PM
Yup. I want my money and that hour of my life back! Where the hell does Turtle Wax get off selling that crap?

helipos
08-21-2007, 02:46 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x262/helipos/IMG_4049.jpg

Oh yeah it works. (maguires clay bar that is, didnt bother with that detailing spray crap just didnt dry the car after the wash. But as has been said before the paint does feel ... well nice)
Regards Cam

Lagos
08-21-2007, 05:18 PM
nice shine!
now finish it off with a good wax.

vip09
08-21-2007, 08:43 PM
wow.. that looks great. Makes me want to go claybar my 7th gen instead of working on my All-Trac.