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Mr E
05-05-2007, 07:21 PM
The V6 wagon now has a refreshed top end. 4 new cams, two rebuilt heads, new gaskets, plugs, cambelts etc etc.

Seems to be running smoothly, and kicking out a fair bit of power, so I guess I'm reasonably happy.

The credit card will recover sooner or later.

PhillyDRFT
05-05-2007, 07:33 PM
Sorry to hear about your credit card. But awesome that you got the alfa Going again. I half thought you might get rid of it after that. You said it served you well though I wish they sold em in the states Ive always liked there stuff.

geebes
05-05-2007, 07:48 PM
O snap...that will be a cool car.

Cavanagh
05-05-2007, 07:54 PM
Sorry to hear about your credit card. But awesome that you got the alfa Going again. I half thought you might get rid of it after that. You said it served you well though I wish they sold em in the states Ive always liked there stuff.
werd

Murgatroy
05-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Did you go back with factory or did you bump the power up a bit?

Mr E
05-05-2007, 09:27 PM
Did you go back with factory or did you bump the power up a bit?

Standard cams. Heads have been 'optimised'. I'd guess a healthy 200bhp or something like that.

Not a lot of point putting much more down with FWD and an open diff.

Murgatroy
05-05-2007, 09:38 PM
200HP is not a bad number. Is it fun though? That is what matters. I remember you have stated that you still prefer the Four over the Alpha. The idea of a daily driver that is not fun to me defeats the purpose. I am hardcore though.

I am looking for a Corolla or Camry for the wife as a daily driver. I am not sure if I can keep my hands out from under the hood though.

I will admit that the level of refinement that I can tolerate in a DD is not quite what others can live with. I have used full on drag cars with cages, slicks, 3500 Stall converters and so for as DDs.

What all was done to the head? Just P&P?

VikingJZ
05-05-2007, 11:06 PM
Alfa's were sold in America for a while. I believe they stopped in the mid 1990's.

VikingJZ
05-05-2007, 11:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Alfa-Romeo-164Q-49-000-One-Owner-Miles_W0QQitemZ200106718717QQihZ010QQcategoryZ5356 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Granted that was an Ebay auction, yet that should give you an idea of what they sold in American before completely stopping all together.

Mr E
05-06-2007, 12:05 AM
200HP is not a bad number. Is it fun though? That is what matters. I remember you have stated that you still prefer the Four over the Alpha. The idea of a daily driver that is not fun to me defeats the purpose. I am hardcore though.

I am looking for a Corolla or Camry for the wife as a daily driver. I am not sure if I can keep my hands out from under the hood though.

I will admit that the level of refinement that I can tolerate in a DD is not quite what others can live with. I have used full on drag cars with cages, slicks, 3500 Stall converters and so for as DDs.

What all was done to the head? Just P&P?

The heads were skimmed and generally sorted out. We had to be sure that the new cams would be located correctly, given the damage the old cams did to the heads...

The Four is a perfectly acceptably daily drive in my opinion, however my daily route to work involves a full suspension MTB... ;)

The Alfa is for distance and load. When picking up people with luggage from airports and the like, the Four is no good. A V6 powered armchair with full Momo leather is far more appropriate.

We run two cars to keep the miles off the Four, and I occasionally need a car for business use. A fire spitting celica doesn't quite create the impression I'm after these days.

Is it fun? Yes, but in a different way. The Four is a fairly hard-ass uncompromised beastie, with a clutch, gearbox and transmission to match. I love the thing dearly, but after 3 hours at high speed I'm looking for the pain killers.

The Alfa is a barge. A beautifully designed barge, and one of the few cars that looks better as a wagon than it does as a saloon, but a barge none the less. It's fun because it's a V6 Alfa, and the engine noise will make any petrolheads hair stand on end. It's also fun because 95% of monkeys in badly modified hatchbacks are simply not expecting a nondescript blue estate car to piss all over them off the lights....

The other plus point is that the Alfa is a little battered, and as a result I care not if someone opens a door into it. So while I'm very very careful where I leave the Four, the 156 just gets abandoned anywhere it'll fit....

Mr E
05-06-2007, 12:08 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Alfa-Romeo-164Q-49-000-One-Owner-Miles_W0QQitemZ200106718717QQihZ010QQcategoryZ5356 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Granted that was an Ebay auction, yet that should give you an idea of what they sold in American before completely stopping all together.

That's a 164 I think.

Murgatroy
05-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Very Acceptable then.

I have always prefered a wagon for a people hauler. And one that has a little pep to it will leave more than one person with a dumbfounded look on their face.

Shadowlife25
05-06-2007, 03:41 AM
Good job on getting the Alfa fixed :)
I used to enjoy banging around in my friends Quattro station wagon. Not the same I know, but comfy and surprisingly peppy for what it was.

Fuelish
05-06-2007, 03:05 PM
T......however my daily route to work involves a full suspension MTB... ;) Hey, Mr E .... any pics (of the Alfa ???? that is lol). I very well remember US Alfas, but can't necessarily recall a wagon (my wife hates wagons in general, I love them or hate them on an individual basis - some are very cool, and on the other hand some are, well, Ford Escorts and such ;) heh ) What kind of fs mtb you commute on ?? My ride to work most days is done via mtb as well - did it all winter, which, here in east TN, was nothing compared to commuting through Detroit winters of past.....Bbrrrrrrrrr...

Mr E
05-06-2007, 03:42 PM
All questions and pic requests answered by my garage.... there's a couple of Alfa pics on there, and even one of the bike. ;)

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=viewparked&id=27

Fuelish
05-06-2007, 04:00 PM
All questions and pic requests answered by my garage.... there's a couple of Alfa pics on there, and even one of the bike. ;)

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=viewparked&id=27
Cool .... diggin' the wagon :cool: Dig the Kona as well ..... riding a '01 Trek Fuel 90, here, as my 2 wheeled commuter .... set up with some slicks, makes a fairly awesome street bike (shorter travel than yours ... 80mm upfront, 78mm - I think- rear..... nice simple effective xc rig :cool: )

Mr E
05-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Sounds good man. The Kona is certainly a playbike, it's too heavy and soft for a proper XC machine. Which suits me just fine as I don't race any more.

No slicks for me. Big knobbleys. Thankfully, it's under 2 miles to work, so I can live with it.