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90celicaGTX
04-15-2007, 09:17 PM
wuts the difference between an SR5 and a GT-S???

cant figure it out?!

donteatbugs
04-15-2007, 09:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AE86

you want a gts.

90celicaGTX
04-15-2007, 09:27 PM
is there a difference in body...

theres one for sale in my part of town that says its,

"corolla sr5 fully converted to a GTS
everything was converted but the SR5 rear-end that has Open Diff."

Cavanagh
04-15-2007, 09:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AE86

you want a gts.
Good Find.
"Lower-spec American AE86 SR5 models used the 1587 cc 4A-C SOHC unit, did not have an optional LSD, and had rear drum brakes."

"The AE86 SR5 (4A-C equipped) had an optional automatic transmission, though the GT-S model (with the 4A-GE DOHC engine) only came with a standard 5-speed manual gearbox."

KoreanJoey
04-16-2007, 08:28 AM
is there a difference in body...

theres one for sale in my part of town that says its,

"corolla sr5 fully converted to a GTS
everything was converted but the SR5 rear-end that has Open Diff."

Um... if it has an SR5 rear end it means it probably still has drum brakes...

andy
04-16-2007, 10:51 PM
there is alot of differnce. although you can convert a sr5 to gts spec, it will cost alot. the biggest differnce is the engine, the sr5 runs the 4ac thats carbed, ewwwwwww. body wise, theres no differce besides the badging.

85gtsblackman
04-17-2007, 12:29 AM
sr5 is actally an ae85

KoreanJoey
04-17-2007, 02:49 AM
HachiGo!

donteatbugs
04-17-2007, 04:19 AM
and a gts is an ae88

KoreanJoey
04-17-2007, 04:22 AM
umm... 86...

donteatbugs
04-17-2007, 04:48 AM
the chassis is an ae86 but the model is an ae88 for the gts, check the vin on one

KoreanJoey
04-17-2007, 05:08 AM
Huh... word... like some of the MR2s are marked as SW21.

GT4SOM
04-17-2007, 05:25 AM
sr5 is actally an ae85
Nope it still says ae86 pm the vin. AE85 never came to the states.
You wanna go with a GTS it retains its value better then a conversion from sr5. If its a good deal, go for it.

90celicaGTX
04-17-2007, 05:32 AM
its a fairly goos deal but i dont know if ima fall through with it...

he is askin 1,100 heres the catch...

the title was "lost" by the previous owner!
and for me to get it is a bitch!!!!
getting a bond thing or something like that...

he sellin it as a "running parts car"

i want it but i dont wanna go through the hassle and i wanna finish my car before i start another

Rix86
04-17-2007, 05:55 AM
sr5 is actally an ae85
Not in this country.
they are ALL ae86 chassis code here.
the ae85 was 3a powered, and never EVER cam here.
the bodies are almost identical.
the sr5 is missing a few little sheet metal mounts, mainly for the coil/igniter and if it had maual steering, the p.s. resevoir.
the auto cars are also missing a littlebracket under the dash.
None of shich is a big deal.
the sr5 has a 6.38 inch ring gear compared to the gts's 6.7.
gts has 4.30 gears in the rear, sr5s' had a few other (higher) gear sets.
sr5's have drum rear brakes, the early ones (84-85) had a different proportioning valve, and a slightly longer rear section on the driveline.


etc etc etc.
converted sr5's are fine, if it's done right.

Rix86
04-17-2007, 05:56 AM
the chassis is an ae86 but the model is an ae88 for the gts, check the vin on one
Wrong.
the VIN will say ae88 for a gts, ae86 for an sr5.
they are all, in this contry, still ae86 chassis code.

andy
04-18-2007, 01:01 AM
thats what he was saying rix.

donteatbugs
04-18-2007, 01:36 AM
and boy does that thing rev high.....vroooom 7200

KoreanJoey
04-18-2007, 10:10 AM
Ummm... my 3SGE revs to 7200... in fact... don't all 3SG* rev to that?

andy
04-18-2007, 05:29 PM
anything with a g head revs around there. the 3sgte also gets on up there at 7200, also ben i think the rev limit is at 7500, I think. I need to test mine.

ciento44
04-18-2007, 08:58 PM
Is it rare for an SR5 to have a power sunroof. Mine does, and i've never seen or heard of another one...

But yeah... main differences are lack of LSD, 4age, rear discs in the SR5. I talked to Rix about it a few months ago, and it seems that the full conversion really isn't too bad if you have a good junkyard in the area.

If i were to end up keeping the SR5, it's something i would definitely do, possibly with a blacktop, but right now i just need to get rid of it.

donteatbugs
04-19-2007, 12:21 AM
i havent hit rev limit and i didnt really want to. my engine was making a ticking noise so i didnt drive it far.i think its in the valves since its had head work done to it. i also dont know htf im supposed to get base timing to set it. i know to jump out one of the conectors but i dont know which one.

DarkSideCelica
04-19-2007, 12:28 AM
btw, i always see these "JDM" kouki parts... wtf is kouki?

KoreanJoey
04-19-2007, 12:53 AM
Kouki is late model, zenki is early model.

And as to having LSD, not all GTS models had it either.

donteatbugs
04-19-2007, 05:50 AM
mine does have lsd, you have to look for the 282 or 283 in the the model/trim plate on the bottom row. 283 is lsd, 282 is open. not that the factory lsd is any good after 20 years though.

KoreanJoey
04-19-2007, 06:43 AM
axle code means exaclty jack shit after all these years, lol.
Beth's car is a stock non lsd zenki model, and has a kouki lsd axle under it :)

KoreanJoey
04-19-2007, 06:44 AM
And 4age redline is 7500.
fuel cut/rev limit is about 7700.

vip09
04-19-2007, 07:10 AM
anything with a g head revs around there. the 3sgte also gets on up there at 7200, also ben i think the rev limit is at 7500, I think. I need to test mine.

*cough* My G head revs to 8400.

KoreanJoey
04-19-2007, 08:23 AM
Damnit Rix... log out...

I Rix seems so angry in comparison to me...

Must be the lack of nicotine.

andy
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
at least my 21 year old car will be worth more than your 01 celica in a few years ryan.

vip09
04-19-2007, 07:56 PM
at least my 21 year old car will be worth more than your 01 celica in a few years ryan.

My car is holding its value very well FYI. I paid 13k for it 4 years ago and it still blue books for 12.2k

donteatbugs
04-20-2007, 01:48 AM
well i guess i should sell my corolla and get a celica gts then.

andy
04-20-2007, 04:46 AM
im with ben, fwd is definatly better than rwd.

donteatbugs
04-20-2007, 04:55 AM
i got mine to get loose around a corner on some bald tires today. the engine still doesnt sound right though. and the brakes are still soft.

Rix86
04-21-2007, 02:16 AM
im with ben, fwd is definatly better than rwd.
Smoke your lunch? :lolhittin :lolhittin :lolhittin

geebes
04-21-2007, 02:48 AM
In the snow anyway?

Rix86
04-21-2007, 03:24 AM
NOT.
You'll never convince me.
short circle track maybe.
and getting MOVING in the snow.
but in the end, studded snows even THAT equation.

alltracman78
04-21-2007, 05:11 PM
IMO transaxlially mounted engines [usually FWD] have ONE advantage.
The drivetrain has less parasitic power loss.
That and it's good for the folks that get all scared when they take a 45* turn at 15 MPH and get all scared they're going to slide all over the place, so they can just let go of the wheel and cover thier eyes, and the car will correct itself for them.

My 2WD 85 PU does just as good [or better] than my 91 GTS used to in the snow.
With snow tires of course.
If you're that worried about snow traction, get AWD.....


i also dont know htf im supposed to get base timing to set it. i know to jump out one of the conectors but i dont know which one.

TE1 [or T] and E1.
Stock base timing is 10* BTDC.



Huh... word... like some of the MR2s are marked as SW21.

That would be a 5SFE powered MR2....

andy
04-21-2007, 05:19 PM
^ the 84-85 corollas didnt have the diag port like most toyotas now. you have to jump a pluged 2 prong connector near the diszzy to put it in timming mode. My 86 corolla does however have the plug with all the diag ports just like my 91. which lleads me to believe that the diag plug appeared in 86'. the 84 again does not have the awesome diag plug but the jumper plug with a rubber boot on it by the dist. w00t old stuff! I drove my corolla around yesterday, yay for old and worn out susp!

KoreanJoey
04-21-2007, 06:34 PM
^ the 84-85 corollas didnt have the diag port like most toyotas now. you have to jump a pluged 2 prong connector near the diszzy to put it in timming mode. My 86 corolla does however have the plug with all the diag ports just like my 91. which lleads me to believe that the diag plug appeared in 86'. the 84 again does not have the awesome diag plug but the jumper plug with a rubber boot on it by the dist. w00t old stuff! I drove my corolla around yesterday, yay for old and worn out susp!
The plug is nowhere near the distributor, it hangs over by the wiper motor.
sr5's (84 are all sr5) have an rpm plug and shit over (back) by the distributor, but base timing is set by pulling vacuum lines from the vacuum advance.
the 85 has all the same shit as the 86-87, just spread over a couple connectors.

alltracman78
04-22-2007, 01:10 AM
^ the 84-85 corollas didnt have the diag port like most toyotas now. you have to jump a pluged 2 prong connector near the diszzy to put it in timming mode. My 86 corolla does however have the plug with all the diag ports just like my 91. which lleads me to believe that the diag plug appeared in 86'. the 84 again does not have the awesome diag plug but the jumper plug with a rubber boot on it by the dist. w00t old stuff! I drove my corolla around yesterday, yay for old and worn out susp!

Well, that was in reference to EFI engines....
If it's carbed, you don't jump anything to time the dist.

donteatbugs
04-23-2007, 03:24 AM
mine had the round jumper on the firewall on the back lef tof the engine. and i got it timed and am now trying to put my poly bushing kit in so i wont have andys problems.

andy
04-23-2007, 07:24 AM
hahahaha, right,

my bad i asumed because thats where my 84's is.