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92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 12:26 AM
Ok well heres whats up.

We bought (still making payments) my 92' ST and found it to have a lot of stuff that needs to be fixed and you can tell the car has sat for a long time. So... were going to go to the car lot and discuss this with them and return the car :ugh: i still like it.

ok now heres the what to do... ok well im 17 and i live in NC cause i like it here i moved back and my dad likes SC better and hes going to get a nice settlement check and i started to look at new cars for me and came across this 1997 BMW M3 AC Schnitzer Edition. its a DAMN SEXY car. anyway i thought what the hell ill ask. so he said if we are able to take the Celica back and the lot that has the M3 still has it he will offer 10g up front in cash.

Soo.... should i keep the Celica ST thats slow and hardly buildible or get the M3 if they still have it.

the M3
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5006/20070205083902automo97bfv6.jpg

Cavanagh
03-06-2007, 12:34 AM
The Fucking M3. :bowdown:

evolution
03-06-2007, 12:45 AM
if you can afford bmw maintenance, by all means get the m3

grayscale
03-06-2007, 12:51 AM
if you can afford bmw maintenance, by all means get the m3
:stupid:

Colossus20v
03-06-2007, 12:52 AM
seems like a stupid question. But i guess no question is stupid. I say M3.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 01:03 AM
lol true just thought id ask but now im looking at a 93 Prelude

Colossus20v
03-06-2007, 01:08 AM
lol true just thought id ask but now im looking at a 93 Prelude
Prelude to what?:) Thats what I always say. Just pick a good reliable car. Do a carfax on the cars your looking at to see their history. Keep us posted.

Cavanagh
03-06-2007, 01:17 AM
Ya, if you get that prelude, thats not even fair for the M3, cause when vtec kicks in....well all bets are off.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 01:20 AM
Yea the Prelude would be nice and handle GOOD the M3 would look nice and go fast and some handling

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 01:21 AM
all depends on taking the car back or selling it

Colossus20v
03-06-2007, 01:32 AM
There is no question between a M3 AC Schnitzer Edition and a Honda Prelude. If you have the choice get the M3.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 02:03 AM
yea i really like the M3 but preludes and cheap and easy to build the M3 not so cheap a turbo kit goes for 7-10g

But ill probably get the Prelude

MasterRex
03-06-2007, 02:51 AM
.... Do you not understand that the M3, stock, will blow the Turbo'd Prelude [Non H22, of course..] out of this fucking world?

Hookecho
03-06-2007, 03:43 AM
don't buy a prelude if it lacks vtac, and don't choose vtac over the m3.

Cavanagh
03-06-2007, 03:46 AM
Amen to all of above.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 12:15 PM
yea the M3 would make the Prelude cry but my dads the one buying it so im going to have little choice he said if i get the M3 i cant touch it performance wise no upgrades but if i get the prelude i can build the shit out of it... so most likely i get that prelude but no doubt i will grab that M3 if i can

CollapsedNut
03-06-2007, 01:43 PM
man just get the M3 and have a sexy as hell car. save your money for other stuff that prelude will suck every pennie you got because parts are cheap but youll be buying so much stuff it wont be worth it in the end. Think this way, chick ratio : prelude vs M3
How many girls you gonna pick up in the prelude vs the M3...youll have bitches beggin to pose nude on that M3!!!

Cavanagh
03-06-2007, 02:56 PM
RWD to FWD.

Enough said.

Luckynumber5
03-06-2007, 04:37 PM
Its not that easy to build a Prelude lol. So many people don't understand this, yeah people who have owned Preludes before can build the shit out of them pretty easy, because they know what to expect.

You build either car and you wont be driving either car for a while. Consider that heh, the M3 will be a much better daily car than the Prelude and you have a better engine to work with.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 07:58 PM
ill be taking the Celica back tomorrow :( with my wheels :( but then i have to wait for the check to get here and then we will go from there

grayscale
03-06-2007, 08:04 PM
Consider that heh, the M3 will be a much better daily car than the Prelude...
meh, wouldn't the Prelude get better mileage though?

2kSnakEater
03-06-2007, 08:48 PM
the way I see it is, you have 2 options.

1. be a typical kid/honda/st owner and get the mad tyte Prelude because "it can be made to go fast!"

2. get the much nicer car that is already fast, extremely confortable and reliable as long as you dont fck with it.

Hiko
03-06-2007, 09:53 PM
What's to debate about? M3 all the way.

Prelude's are nice, but an M3 is way faster in a straight and around corners. The only reason I could see that you'd even consider the prelude over the M3 is in insurance, which I'm sure would be a lot with the BMW.

92CelicaST
03-06-2007, 11:12 PM
yea being a new driver dont help at all

Idiot Stick
03-07-2007, 02:08 AM
Ok here is my honest and sincere suggestion

get the prelude, then proceed to pm me the address and contact info for this dealer.

being 17 and in school, you wouldnt be able to take care of it like i can ;)

j/k. Id go for the M3. Why? Count how many preludes you see in the run of a day, then how many M3's.

Cavanagh
03-07-2007, 02:24 AM
1. be a typical kid/honda/st owner and get the mad tyte Prelude because "it can be made to go fast!"

Thats excalty why i picked up my ST!!!!!
:madfawk:

grayscale
03-07-2007, 03:29 AM
Fawk it all. I say if your pops is gonna spring for that kinda cash go find a nice AllTrac.

92CelicaST
03-09-2007, 01:22 AM
well ST is now gone and so is that BMW they sold it to soon so im like well SHIT..... So Prelude it is. Its a Si the 2.3l and i found a 2.2l Vtec so...

Whats better the 2.3l Si or the 2.2l the 2.2 should have 190hp and the 2.3 should have 160 and they have the same torque maybe off by 3

Cavanagh
03-09-2007, 03:57 AM
Hmmm, i thought the options were SH and Si. I also thought they both had the same motor (200hp) just some options were different. I seem to stand corrected. (BTW dont forget to get the 5spd.)

2kSnakEater
03-09-2007, 04:24 AM
Thats excalty why i picked up my ST!!!!!
:madfawk:


Im sorry, but you will understand me when you are 5 years older (it might even take you less than that) I have noticed you have cooled down and grown up a little since I first Join Ctech, I have high hopes for you buddy!

Ricksta
03-09-2007, 04:41 AM
Ok well heres whats up.

We bought (still making payments) my 92' ST and found it to have a lot of stuff that needs to be fixed and you can tell the car has sat for a long time. So... were going to go to the car lot and discuss this with them and return the car :ugh: i still like it.

ok now heres the what to do... ok well im 17 and i live in NC cause i like it here i moved back and my dad likes SC better and hes going to get a nice settlement check and i started to look at new cars for me and came across this 1997 BMW M3 AC Schnitzer Edition. its a DAMN SEXY car. anyway i thought what the hell ill ask. so he said if we are able to take the Celica back and the lot that has the M3 still has it he will offer 10g up front in cash.

Soo.... should i keep the Celica ST thats slow and hardly buildible or get the M3 if they still have it.

the M3
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5006/20070205083902automo97bfv6.jpg

Get the M3. Think of it this way, you think that your going to mod the hell out of that prelude right? Well unless you have a second car the farthest your going to get is to autozone with a cheap intake system. To seriously mod a car the car is going to be out of service for awhile. So do you have a means of transportation while your car is in pieces?!?!

M3 mann...Fast, realiable, comfortable...and hot damn ive seen porn clips of chicks having sex with m3 shift knobs... :bowdown:

knuff said.

grayscale
03-09-2007, 05:03 AM
Get the M3...
Guess you missed the part 3 hours ago where he said it was gone already.

F a Prelude, go find a Supra with that kind of cash.

92CelicaST
03-09-2007, 11:58 AM
id love to have a Supra

but my dad had a idea get the Prelude and a Bike to learn to ride being i live near some DAMN nice riding spots and i want a Hayabusa Turbo lol that would be fun or a smaller bike thats boosted

Hookecho
03-09-2007, 12:24 PM
go for the vtac then.

85gtsblackman
03-09-2007, 01:44 PM
or find a 1st gen legacy turbo, they make good sleepers :bigthumbu

2kSnakEater
03-09-2007, 02:19 PM
Ricky has been ridind for a while before he got his R1, he didnt even want a Busa. Please get a starter bike before you step up to the fastest bike in production.

KotahGTS
03-09-2007, 02:57 PM
i wish my dad bought me a car. i was 18 and spent almost every dime i had in the bank to get my first car. and the thing shook above 60mph. lol

MuscleOwnzRice
03-09-2007, 05:19 PM
ummm m3..... :wtf: does that even qualify as a question?

andy
03-09-2007, 05:35 PM
turbo busa + 17 = horible death

you need to take your balls out of your purse and man up to vtec.... not! get the bmw

redpunk
03-09-2007, 06:04 PM
come on man, first off, of course m3, second can you affornd the bmw maintance,insurance for a 17 year old on a m3,and handle the car, its a different car coming from a celica, rear wheel drive, compare those and see if the m3 is for you, a prelude in not bad of course nothing compared to m3, maybe a prelude is not bad for a start then move your way up after exprience, and maybe get a prelude and keep the celica

92CelicaST
03-09-2007, 09:51 PM
If i get a bike ill get a starter bike. Im now pushing toward the Vtec of course but also looking for other cars. i want something highly buildable and cheap to build easy to find parts for and good on insurance and gas as i get older insurance will go down but starting it sucks i also want it to look good. so thats why i like the Prelude but if the BMW was still there but its not.

ill let you all know what car and/or bike i get.

Ricksta
03-09-2007, 10:16 PM
id love to have a Supra

but my dad had a idea get the Prelude and a Bike to learn to ride being i live near some DAMN nice riding spots and i want a Hayabusa Turbo lol that would be fun or a smaller bike thats boosted

heh...you'll die. at 17 you dont have the maturity level to ride anything over 500cc. not to mention the busa handles like a tank, twisties are no fun with the busa. in 08 thier coming out with the 1400cc busa. one day i'll have one, and im going to turbo it, but will basically be a track only bike. only meant to be driven in a straight line.

92CelicaST
03-10-2007, 01:11 PM
yea, still be fun a boosted 1400cc :) well i found another car i like its a 2000 Subaru 2.5rs its a dark dark blue and it looks nice but its automatic but still a nice car. and as for the maturity i agree with that not that im immature.

85gtsblackman
03-10-2007, 01:41 PM
yes get that car, manual swap is not hard, i did it back when i had my legacy, those cars are fun as hell


plus u can do a motor swap to a wrx engine or turbo the ej25, wrx engines are starting to pop up due to peeps buying sti motors for the current wrx


after i get things back to normal im either getting a 89-92 supra but if i cant find one in decent shape ill look for a 99-01 2.5 rs 2dr, and then possibly going turbo or wrx engine

greymatter
03-10-2007, 05:34 PM
Edit:
shoulda got the M3! but yea, fuck a prelude man. look for a supra, or even an Alltrac, I like 300sx too. Silvias aren't bad either. anything but a honda man... lol

and if you wanna get a bike, i'd recomend Kawi. I'm a big fan of them, have been since i was a kid and liked supercross. I'm getting a ZR6 for my first bike. If i could ever handle riding it.. i'd love to get the new ZX-14. big bike, but it's a busa killer!

aballz
03-11-2007, 03:35 AM
M3 only if you can afford the maintanance and able to withstand its whimsy reliability.

grayscale
03-11-2007, 04:37 AM
Apparently half of you don't know how to read a thread, the M3 is no longer an option.

aballz
03-12-2007, 12:44 AM
LoL, most of us didn't read the part where you said you're moving on to a prelude. Anyway good luck with that and buy one with the 4ws. I hear that thing turns like it's on rails! Not to mention parking is probably a bit easier.

Cavanagh
03-12-2007, 01:13 AM
Apparently half of you don't know how to read a thread, the M3 is no longer an option.
Hahah i was just bout to say that...

d1alltrac
03-12-2007, 02:08 AM
Yea the Prelude would be nice and handle GOOD the M3 would look nice and go fast and some handling

You were joking right? Handling wise there is no contest, E36 M3's are perfectly balanced and handle like a dream, preludes on the other hand...lol

And even a H22 prelude that should run 15.6 stock is WAY slower than an E36 M3 which should be around 14 flat.


Oh and "AC Schnitzer Edition"..... :bs:

But since the car already sold my post is completely useless...lol

aballz
03-12-2007, 04:25 AM
Apparently i'm not the only one who doesn't seem to realize that the M3 is no longer an option :brick:

92CelicaST
03-12-2007, 11:14 AM
lol well that prelude is ok but i like this Subaru 2.5rs its nice and i can buy full cusco suspension like on there race car and do a swap or just turbo the 2.5 in it..

remind me to post pics later when i get home ill post both the Preludes and the 2.5RS but i can also find more cars those are just ones i like

92CelicaST
03-14-2007, 11:18 AM
2.5RS
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3513/subaruzh0.jpg
1995 VTEC
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7268/preludeblacklx3.jpg
1993 Si
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7862/preludewhitedx8.jpg

Murgatroy
03-14-2007, 11:20 AM
Subi gets my vote.

I have always had a weakness for an Impreza.

92CelicaST
03-14-2007, 11:27 AM
yea me to lol i have a cool idea for it but i doubt it would work id have to strengthen everything

idea is (buy a semi turbo and a exhaust manifold for the subaru and fab. a adapter plate and gasket) and grab a intercooler off a newer STi would be cool i think but lots of work and money for stronger parts and a upgraded fuel system

Murgatroy
03-14-2007, 11:37 AM
Yeah, the turbo off a diesel tractor is going to be way too big. Not to mention they don't spool for a while. I drive trucks.

92CelicaST
03-14-2007, 07:39 PM
ok thanks for that info but wouldnt the low RPMs of the Semi have a effect on it for not spooling for awhile so higher RPMs sould help... i would think. but like i said just an idea

Cavanagh
03-14-2007, 08:26 PM
:waiting for stxman for the scoobie post:
:hehe: I like it, 4 door, but still cool. Is it manual? If not, i'd go for the 95' vtak if its manual.

92CelicaST
03-14-2007, 08:52 PM
both preludes are 5 speeds and the Subaru is Auto but i still like it can do a conversion but its a pain

AstroVannin
03-14-2007, 11:56 PM
just get whatever you can afford to maintain.... think 90's Corolla

92CelicaST
03-15-2007, 01:41 AM
If the Subaru is still there were getting it i think or a 87 Supra Turbo

Cavanagh
03-15-2007, 01:55 AM
Jesus, tell us ALL of your choices lol. If i were in your shoes, i'd get the MKIII Supra Turbo.

92CelicaST
03-15-2007, 11:22 AM
well i have about 3 weeks or more give or take for the big check so... these are just cars that catch my eye.
so far choices are:

93' Prelude si

95' Prelude VTEC

00' 2.5RS

87' Supra Turbo

or if i can find a cheap one a Grand Prix GTP Black two door 98-03 the 97 looks the same but different style of engine bay

also a Hatch back Civic

or a 7th Gen. celica GT or GTS

and maybe a Eclipse it better be AWD and turbo

all of those farily cheap so i might also get a like 250 or 500 bike to learn on

oh... and yesterday ridin down the interstate i saw some new person drivin the old Celica ST with my wheels still on it. :ugh: oh well ill be getting a better car soon i just liked the Celica it handled great but could use some extra power.

edit: add to the list full list so far of what i have found for sale near me.
92' 240sx 5 speed.
93' Prelude si
95' Prelude VTEC
00' 2.5RS
87' Supra Turbo


you are welcome to add some ideas for me to look for i want it buildible and a good looking car. that handles. and not crazy on my insurance think of any thing or know of any near 28716 let me know

Cavanagh
03-15-2007, 10:20 PM
I still say supra, then the 240, than the 95 vtec, then subaru. Just me though.

92CelicaST
03-15-2007, 10:40 PM
yea depends on the condition of the cars then we go for performance and looks

but 240's hatchbacks are nice always wanted one.
Supra is just to damn cool and i would kill my self being dumb and having fun.
Subaru i like the way i can make it look and love the way they sound.
the Vtec well VTEC... duh lol

xX40ozPimpXx
03-16-2007, 03:48 AM
First off, You remind me of myself a few years back.

Heres some Sound advise. Dont buy any honda. I am not saying that as a "toyota biased oppinion" Im saying that because You WILL regret it down the road.
sure they run forever, but the Great aftermarket the supposidly have is JUNK aftermarket.

If i were you, I would pick up another celica. 4th -5th-6th gen. You will find the aftermarket available is better focused. With having the market of an mr2 and alltrac behind it. swapping to a st185 is a weekend job, week job at most for the least skilled.

The subaru idea is Great! they are wonderful cars. If your looking for something with great potential, you can find a First generation Bug-eye WRX for 8-10k
Or an srt-4 Neon (touchy subject) for 10k, mazdaspeed protege for 10-13k.

Honestly you can even pick up a nice alltrac for 6-8k (st185) or a st165 for 3k.

But please. do some comparing, Do you really want a civic or prelude? sure you can Build an H22. or a b18, but being 17 you will just end up in debt because of your Intake header exhaust and body kit with stereo and Underglow lights. WHile you have the chance, have the car you will wish you had when your 25 and look back.

Murgatroy
03-16-2007, 09:30 AM
ok thanks for that info but wouldnt the low RPMs of the Semi have a effect on it for not spooling for awhile so higher RPMs sould help... i would think. but like i said just an idea
Most diesel truck engines are 10 litre or larger. They put out a lot more air even at low RPMs than a <3 litre engine will at high RPMs.

92CelicaST
03-16-2007, 11:20 AM
true

1990CelicaGT-S
03-16-2007, 11:32 AM
I say go Supra Turbo, then the 240, then the Imprezza. I too would stay away from any of those Hondas.

TheNefariousOne
03-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Dude I love my Celica and all, but there's no question that the Honda aftermarket wipes the floor with Toyota's. Instead of one choice for each part, you have some selection. With a Honda you don't need custom this and custom that since parts (usually) already exist on the market.

So tell me again how the Honda aftermarket is junk?


First off, You remind me of myself a few years back.

Heres some Sound advise. Dont buy any honda. I am not saying that as a "toyota biased oppinion" Im saying that because You WILL regret it down the road.
sure they run forever, but the Great aftermarket the supposidly have is JUNK aftermarket.

If i were you, I would pick up another celica. 4th -5th-6th gen. You will find the aftermarket available is better focused. With having the market of an mr2 and alltrac behind it. swapping to a st185 is a weekend job, week job at most for the least skilled.

The subaru idea is Great! they are wonderful cars. If your looking for something with great potential, you can find a First generation Bug-eye WRX for 8-10k
Or an srt-4 Neon (touchy subject) for 10k, mazdaspeed protege for 10-13k.

Honestly you can even pick up a nice alltrac for 6-8k (st185) or a st165 for 3k.

But please. do some comparing, Do you really want a civic or prelude? sure you can Build an H22. or a b18, but being 17 you will just end up in debt because of your Intake header exhaust and body kit with stereo and Underglow lights. WHile you have the chance, have the car you will wish you had when your 25 and look back.

AstroVannin
03-16-2007, 05:44 PM
5th gen Celica GT-S for the win.... actually, why not get the Celeb race Celica off eGay?

TheNefariousOne
03-16-2007, 07:55 PM
Blah, 5th gen GT-S = bloated

:puts on flame suit:

Cavanagh
03-17-2007, 12:36 AM
Blah, 5th gen GT-S = bloated

:puts on flame suit:
No flaming, just the truth. You think Toyota would have put a different engine in for GT-S :squint:

AstroVannin
03-17-2007, 02:42 AM
I agree, 5SFE is the weakness.... but its super reliable and decent on gas, and parts are affordable. These are things he should probably look for... unless dad is going to be paying for all he future repairs too.

Plus it looks and handles good.

The 5th gen isnt everyones favorite, but who cares, it works great for what it is.

aballz
03-17-2007, 03:56 AM
I'm always thinking if people get fooled by seeing the GT-S emblem in the back thinking I'm faster than the average bear.

85gtsblackman
03-17-2007, 11:25 AM
:waiting for stxman for the scoobie post:


scoob, not hard to swap

umm lets see an mk3 supra turbo...hmmm ummm lets see...

HELL YES!!

actally thats what im debating getting as a playt toy after i get so things worked out

the 7m is actally replable if u add in a higher pressure oil pump, well actally some sort of gm spring, and u put a metal hg on there and make sure all the cooling componets are in good order

that engine can bee madfe hella fast without too much money

that car would be the best bang for the buck and i know/seen this 1st hand

theres a tie between the subie and the 240

only cause the scoob is auto 4 door

and u cant take the mk3 supra and put on the 91-92 wheels , 89 and up front end and spoiler and it looks pretty nice i also forgot to add in the 89 up mirrors and jdm tails

look at the 87 and then see the 89-up, the 89 up had a nice face lift

if u do get that car be sure to check the tourque on the head bolts as soon as u get it, thats why many 7m,s die they were under tourqued from the factory

92CelicaST
03-18-2007, 02:43 PM
ok ill be sure to check that out if i get it i do want it a lot supra MkIII and MkIV are my favorite cars

would be damn cool if i could find a 93-97 Twin Turbo :)

92CelicaST
03-18-2007, 02:45 PM
I agree, 5SFE is the weakness.... but its super reliable and decent on gas, and parts are affordable. These are things he should probably look for... unless dad is going to be paying for all he future repairs too.

Plus it looks and handles good.

The 5th gen isnt everyones favorite, but who cares, it works great for what it is.

5th gen is my favorite but i only like the Coupes the hatches are ok

Cavanagh
03-18-2007, 04:10 PM
ok ill be sure to check that out if i get it i do want it a lot supra MkIII and MkIV are my favorite cars

would be damn cool if i could find a 93-97 Twin Turbo :)
oh you could find one, if you have the cash :)

92CelicaST
03-18-2007, 07:56 PM
yea i can find them but there like $30,000 and Up to like $100,000+

xX40ozPimpXx
03-18-2007, 11:11 PM
Dude I love my Celica and all, but there's no question that the Honda aftermarket wipes the floor with Toyota's. Instead of one choice for each part, you have some selection. With a Honda you don't need custom this and custom that since parts (usually) already exist on the market.

So tell me again how the Honda aftermarket is junk?
Sorry. But just because there is 12 differant catbacks available for a prelude. and 3 for the celica. or 22 styles of taillights and nothing for the Celica. does not mean hondas aftermarket Wipes toyotas.

there is a Full range of Rods/pistons/Valvetrain available.

Toyota Has A veriety of Turbocharged engines, Thats where you gain the RESPECTABLE aftermarket. Sure, Nopi has 400 pages of parts for a civic, but honestly. its worthless.

But bang for the buck Toyota takes the win! they got the B series. we got the 3s series. are you honestly going to tell me the aftermarket for the B-series WIPES the 3s?

Coming from an ex-honda Owner. sure its available. but theres to much to cloud your mind from doing anything usefull.

Thats why Toyota owners seem to be More knowledgable and Mature IMO.

Cavanagh
03-18-2007, 11:44 PM
^^I agree partially, but i think TNO is talking about all there cars in general too. C'mon, everyone knows honda has a stronger aftermarket support. With so many models like the Integ,civic,prelude,accord,nsx,rsx blah blah blah compared to our royal 3 or 4: Celica,Supra,MR2, AE86. Now, if we were talking "JDM y0" we would prolly bend over honda since they can get other powerful toyotas that most likley have crazy aftermarket support behind them. My TEN cents of info ;)

TheNefariousOne
03-18-2007, 11:58 PM
Sorry. But just because there is 12 differant catbacks available for a prelude. and 3 for the celica. or 22 styles of taillights and nothing for the Celica. does not mean hondas aftermarket Wipes toyotas.

there is a Full range of Rods/pistons/Valvetrain available.

Toyota Has A veriety of Turbocharged engines, Thats where you gain the RESPECTABLE aftermarket. Sure, Nopi has 400 pages of parts for a civic, but honestly. its worthless.

I'm sorry, but what does having turbocharged engines have to do with having a "respectable" aftermarket? And Honda has tons of turbo parts available for all of their engines. The same can't be said for Toyota.


But bang for the buck Toyota takes the win! they got the B series. we got the 3s series. are you honestly going to tell me the aftermarket for the B-series WIPES the 3s?

Coming from an ex-honda Owner. sure its available. but theres to much to cloud your mind from doing anything usefull.

Thats why Toyota owners seem to be More knowledgable and Mature IMO.

Yes, the aftermarket for the B series wipes the floor with the 3sgte, just like any other facet of the cars. It's more readily available, and there's more choice.

d1alltrac
03-19-2007, 12:38 AM
I still think this is the absolute worst way to choose a car..."oh thats cool I'm gonna buy that"...."oh look a supra for sale"..."oh look a subaru"...."hey an M3"...

None of the cars you've listed are similar in anyway. So obviously you're just looking for something "cool" and you aren't even really considering the characteristics of each car. But hey, if thats the way you wanna do it.......

TEAMFaint
03-19-2007, 01:14 AM
You have absolutely no idea on what you are looking for in a car.

Sorry but its the absolute blunt truth.

Your in school, you probably dont have a lot of available money, wait to start a project car, especially if you are looking for a bike as well.

Sounds to me like your parents are well off and will probably be helping you purchase a lot of the things you want for your vehicle. Do them a favor, as well as you..get a daily driver.

Your a relatively new driver, not that experienced, the last thing you need to do being a new driver is 1) smash your vehicle or 2) blown an engine ragging on your vehicle.


Truthfully, out of all those options you posted. I would go with the Scoobie Automatic. Its the newest vehicle out of all the other ones you posted, meaning it wont need a lot of matience right off such as the older vehicles (mid 90's). With those vehicles you will soonly be having to do such things are timing belts, suspension components, cv axle boots, brakes, etc. and sure they arent very expensive things to do, but they nickle and dime away at you and it also means downtime for your vehicle.

Once you decide what you are going to be doing with your life (work or school) and have some extra money to toss around of your own, get yourself a project car and dump money into it WHILE driving your daily driver.


Truthfully I wish someone told me this when I was looking for a vehicle when I was 16. I purchased my 92, bought a bodykit, started to do my own prep work, and had random vehicle parts totalling over $1500 sitting in my house for over 2 years (bodykit, lowering springs, slotted rotors, struts, gauges, etc). I have now been driving an incomplete project, shot in primer and still waiting for its paintjob. I wish I could have just kept my vehicle the way it was, replace it with stock parts for the brakes and suspension, not touched the paint, and just drove the vehicle until I can afford to complete a project start to finish.


That Scoobie looks very clean, who cares if its an automatic? Drive it throughout highschool/college. After you graduate, sell it, or keep it as your daily. Work, THEN buy yourself project car, and complete it with the extra cash you have.


This is my advice, I hope you take it to heart.

Cavanagh
03-19-2007, 02:19 AM
That should end this thread with that last note, he couldnt have said it better.

92CelicaST
03-20-2007, 02:21 AM
good advice ill keep it in mind

and yes this topic is done. until i return with a car to talk about...

thanks for all the advice guys