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Spud
01-29-2007, 02:17 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm in need of some information, if any of you could give me a hand I'd appreciate it a lot.

I'm looking for the Toyota part number of a rev2 3sge Celica MAP sensor. JDM would be best, but any feedback would be great.

Anybody please? Thank you!

Mister2T
01-29-2007, 03:30 PM
duno, would a 3sgte map sensor work?

Spud
01-29-2007, 03:54 PM
I suppose I could try, however they're all different part numbers, so I guess I'd rather have the right part in there. I've swapped a rev2 3sge celica motor into my Mr2, and used the MAP sensor from the 5sfe that used to be in there. The motor is starting/running like crap, and thinking this may be the reason why.

There are a few people here with 3sge swaps aren't there?

2kSnakEater
01-29-2007, 04:00 PM
you cannot use the 5sfe map sensor, you MUST use the 3sgte map sensor since the 5sfe is a 1 bar sensor (only reads -10 to 0 psi ) the 3sgte is a 2 bar sensor (-10 to +10 psi)

Spud
01-29-2007, 04:53 PM
3sge, not 3sgte

2kSnakEater
01-29-2007, 04:55 PM
ah hell, then I dont have a clue.

andy
01-29-2007, 05:24 PM
what ignitor are you using. That could also affect it.

Spud
01-29-2007, 05:39 PM
using the ignitor that came with the celica 3sge.

Luni
01-29-2007, 05:39 PM
5SFE map should work. Its a 1bar.

Technically any denso 1bar map sensor should work. 4afe, 7afe, 5SFE, etc.

Spud
01-29-2007, 06:02 PM
I'd like to believe that "technically" and "should" work out the way they're supposed to, but I've been trying to trouble shoot my eninge for weeks, and this is just another variable I need to get rid of. There has to be some reason why the part numbers are different......which is why I need the 3sge # so I can get the sensor that goes with it.

T-spoon
01-29-2007, 06:29 PM
I'd like to believe that "technically" and "should" work out the way they're supposed to, but I've been trying to trouble shoot my eninge for weeks, and this is just another variable I need to get rid of. There has to be some reason why the part numbers are different......which is why I need the 3sge # so I can get the sensor that goes with it.


The biggest reason the part numbers are different is because the engines are for different markets. Even compatible parts will have different part numbers. I can't look up a JDM part number, but if you could get the part number, I could find out if we could get one in new. If you're looking for a used part.. I dunno... maybe call up an engine importer and see if they'll sell you one.

Spud
01-29-2007, 06:34 PM
^ya....I understand that they COULD be compatible, but the engine isn't working correctly and this is one variable I can get rid of.

I have several contacts over seas, I just need to find out what part number to ask for.....hense the thread :)

2kSnakEater
01-29-2007, 06:52 PM
so go to a junk yard and pocket a few map sensors. try them and then if they dont fix the problem try hunting down a 3sge map sensor.

Luis C
01-29-2007, 09:35 PM
Lemme get home and Ill look it up on the EPC

Spud
01-29-2007, 09:52 PM
^great, thank you I appreciate it. What is the EPC?

Luis C
01-30-2007, 03:52 AM
EPC = Electronic Parts Catalogue (same as in the dealership)

Sorry, Ive spent almost an hour digging through all the possible componants names and diagrams and I could not find it anywhere. Searches on the EPC are not that easy since the EPC uses more elaborate names for parts and stuff. Maybe some else where can help you.

If you want a copy of the EPC I downloaded mine from emule, mind you there are several versions there different in year and market

allblackalltrac
01-30-2007, 03:58 AM
This is the part number for a GEN3 3SGE MAP sensor, not sure if the GEN2 is the same but here is the info regardless...

89420-20300

Spud
01-30-2007, 11:31 AM
^thanks guys. If somebody could still post the number for a Gen2 that'd be great. I know there's at least one or two people here who have it....

Luis C
01-30-2007, 08:20 PM
Witch are the where abouts of the MAP sensor? maybe I can take a more in depth look if I know where to look

Spud
01-30-2007, 09:14 PM
its a grey plastic square, on the MR2 usually on the rear fire wall on the passenger side, sitting up on top right with the diagnostic port. It will read "vacuum sensor" or something like that, and have a 10 digit number, most likely starting with 89420. Its probably an inch or so long, by an inch wide, and it'll have a vacuum tube running right from the bottom of it.

If you could give me that 10 digit number that'd be great!

Luis C
01-31-2007, 12:29 AM
Ok, now I know what you are talking about. This is what pisses me off about the EPC, all names are different than the ones you use every day :madfawk: and God knows how many times Ive seen that little prick fixed to the Celis firewall and wondering what it was for. :brick:

Ok, so the Part No. for a Euro ST182 LHD
89420-20150 SENSOR ASSY, VACUUM. Production dates:8911-9311


Part No. for a Jap, RHD MR-2
89420-17040 SENSOR ASSY, VACUUM (for E.F.I.) Production dates:8912-9908

Spud
02-01-2007, 02:42 AM
^thank you very much