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vip09
01-20-2007, 06:36 PM
So I lined up my 7th gen with an anonymous celicatech member's 5th gen at the 1/8th mile drag strip. Here are the results:

Mods:
7th gen - Stock
5th gen - Intake/Exhaust

No sound, old digital camera only took video and not sound :(


http://thumbs.vidiac.com/a390efd6-c048-4ead-96f5-9aad9ae44121.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a390efd6-c048-4ead-96f5-9aad9ae44121.htm)Click here to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a390efd6-c048-4ead-96f5-9aad9ae44121.htm)

BlueDragon
01-20-2007, 07:32 PM
the mods dont condone this whole section they might as well delete it and re-make it TRACK DRAG RACING or something more nazi specific.
please?? :bigthumbu

T-spoon
01-20-2007, 08:05 PM
the mods dont condone this whole section they might as well delete it and re-make it TRACK DRAG RACING or something more nazi specific.
please?? :bigthumbu

Honestly, mods are very very light on this subject, the only way to get people to act nazi about it is to be silly about it. Cut it out :slap:

Colossus20v
01-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Thats what I thought would happen. Nice run.

hyoctane
01-22-2007, 05:55 PM
pwned... Nice run.

Cavanagh
01-22-2007, 09:27 PM
pwned... Nice run.
Heh, i wonder why.... 135hp to 180hp hehe. still cool though.

GT4SOM
01-23-2007, 01:31 AM
I bet he wouldn't own my stock gt :D

ciento44
01-23-2007, 02:38 AM
I'm at work, can't watch it right now, but what kindof time did you run? I wanna see how close i was in my GT. :)

gt lifthback
01-23-2007, 03:07 AM
Ciento that was you on the video.........nice car!!! lol

vip09
01-23-2007, 05:05 AM
I'm at work, can't watch it right now, but what kindof time did you run? I wanna see how close i was in my GT. :)

my best time at that track was an 8.7 with a 2.10 60' on street tires.

vip09
01-23-2007, 05:08 AM
I bet he wouldn't own my stock gt :D

You better have a stock 3s-gte swap if you want to keep up with my 7th gen.. lol

vip09
01-23-2007, 05:09 AM
Actually the guy I raced in that video now has a stock 3s-gte swap running 12psi.. actually he has a 3" intake and 2.5" exhaust. But I've been trying to get him to run my GT-S but he won't :( I pulled him pretty good when he had his 5s-fte setup... and I was stock.

andy
01-23-2007, 05:42 AM
I dont recall you pulling shit on my 5sfte. And if you ever fix your tranny i will be glad to race your ass. hehehe. I ran a 9.8 that time . not sure of the trap though around 64ish i think. Post up some more of our vids ryan.

ciento44
01-23-2007, 06:19 AM
Ciento that was you on the video.........nice car!!! lol


Haha... nah, not me. Mine's white, and probably not as clean, and with a tired-ass stock 5sfe. For another couple months at least.

But i'll be honest, and i'm not putting the 5th gen in the video down at all, but i've raced 7th gen GT-Ss and been closer than that.... Probably mostly driver discrepancy, but still...

I need to find my slips to see what i ran in the 8th, i usually don't pay attention to it, but i'm pretty sure i was trapping close to 70. But as i've said in the past, i'm convinced my GT is a freak.

vip09
01-23-2007, 06:53 AM
Haha... nah, not me. Mine's white, and probably not as clean, and with a tired-ass stock 5sfe. For another couple months at least.

But i'll be honest, and i'm not putting the 5th gen in the video down at all, but i've raced 7th gen GT-Ss and been closer than that.... Probably mostly driver discrepancy, but still...

I need to find my slips to see what i ran in the 8th, i usually don't pay attention to it, but i'm pretty sure i was trapping close to 70. But as i've said in the past, i'm convinced my GT is a freak.

well i can believe that, because i'm not your average celica gt-s driver. The fastest time ever for the 7th gen gt-s stock is 14.7.. there were only three people to do it.. I'm one of them.

ciento44
01-23-2007, 07:00 AM
well i can believe that, because i'm not your average celica gt-s driver. The fastest time ever for the 7th gen gt-s stock is 14.7.. there were only three people to do it.. I'm one of them.


If i come down to AL, can i give it a row in your car? I'll bet i can get down to that time within 5 passes. :)

You coming out to the Dragon meet?

burnyd
01-23-2007, 07:02 AM
well i can believe that, because i'm not your average celica gt-s driver. The fastest time ever for the 7th gen gt-s stock is 14.7.. there were only three people to do it.. I'm one of them.

fuck bmw... vip09 is the ultimate driving machine

vip09
01-23-2007, 08:08 AM
If i come down to AL, can i give it a row in your car? I'll bet i can get down to that time within 5 passes. :)

You coming out to the Dragon meet?

I bet you money that you can't. Out of all the people on newcelica.org, only three people have gotten 14.7 bone stock. It took A LOT of practice for me to be able to do that. I have a stack of slips from my local 1/8th mile track thats over an inch thick.. its about 100 passes or more.

burnyd
01-23-2007, 08:29 AM
I bet you money that you can't. Out of all the people on newcelica.org, only three people have gotten 14.7 bone stock. It took A LOT of practice for me to be able to do that. I have a stack of slips from my local 1/8th mile track thats over an inch thick.. its about 100 passes or more.


well wether or not you went 14.7 on a stock celica.. its still a 14 second slow car. And if you made 100 passes without breaking I would say your not that great of a driver... also take into consideration not everyone is on newcelica.org

vip09
01-23-2007, 08:37 AM
well wether or not you went 14.7 on a stock celica.. its still a 14 second slow car. And if you made 100 passes without breaking I would say your not that great of a driver... also take into consideration not everyone is on newcelica.org

I was stock, with full interior. andy10889 on this forum can vouch for me. When I ran the 14.7 it was my first time at a 1/4 mile track. The only 1/4 mile track around here is 3 hours away. My local track is a 1/8th.. hence why I have a TON of slips from there.

So what does a stock MR2 Turbo run with a 2nd gen 3sgte at stock boost of 7psi.. like 14.5?? :rolleyes: Kinda sad an n/a 1.8 liter sport compact keeps up with a 2.0 liter turbocharged mid-engine rwd sports car.


*edit: actually here I quote NoShoes from MR2OC.com.. who is a very good MR2 tuner.. and generally one of the more knowledgable people on MR2OC.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showpost.php?p=157921&postcount=4


A completely stock MR2 will do a 14.6-14.8.

The record for the quickest 1/4 mile with the factory twin entry CT-26 turboCHARGER (no nitrous) was set in May 2002, by Bryan Moore (me).

12.76 @ 106.95 mph
60 foot: 1.76

Stock factory CT26 turbocharger (no compressor upgrades), 91NA with 93USDM 3S-GTE swap.

burnyd
01-23-2007, 08:55 AM
I was stock, with full interior. andy10889 on this forum can vouch for me. When I ran the 14.7 it was my first time at a 1/4 mile track. The only 1/4 mile track around here is 3 hours away. My local track is a 1/8th.. hence why I have a TON of slips from there.

So what does a stock MR2 Turbo run with a 2nd gen 3sgte at stock boost of 7psi.. like 14.5?? :rolleyes: Kinda sad an n/a 1.8 liter sport compact keeps up with a 2.0 liter turbocharged mid-engine rwd sports car.


*edit: actually here I quote NoShoes from MR2OC.com.. who is a very good MR2 tuner.. and generally one of the more knowledgable people on MR2OC.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showpost.php?p=157921&postcount=4


your going to start so much un needed crap.....

but whats sad is I would completely destroy you in a 1/8 mile stock for stock..

I honest to god dont care what you would do stock.. it doesnt matter. Look at what a stock dsm does.. stock.. now look at it what it does with a boost controller it then goes 13s. Like everyone is so concerned or clames stock to the point at which people argue about different floor mats.

I stock with my car when I first swapped my car went 14.6 @ I dont know what I did it at dont have the slips there all in my car. and thats the first time I drove my car at the track. With a boost controller @ 14psi I went 13.6 @ 102.66.. if you want to go 1/8 mile I went in the mid 8s @ around 80ish mph... I cut a 1.9 for my 60ft.. but reguardless the way my car sits now with the ct20b downpipe and exhaust would beat your 20g powered alltrac........ that went 13's now thats sad!

vip09
01-23-2007, 08:59 AM
I stock with my car when I first swapped my car went 14.6 @ I dont know what I did it at dont have the slips there all in my car. and thats the first time I drove my car at the track. With a boost controller @ 14psi I went 13.6 @ 102.66.. if you want to go 1/8 mile I went in the mid 8s @ around 80ish mph... I cut a 1.9 for my 60ft.. but reguardless the way my car sits now with the ct20b downpipe and exhaust would beat your 20g powered alltrac........ that went 13's now thats sad!

Ohhh you want to talk about my All-Trac now?? Did you read over the fact that I was only running 13psi of boost to run a 13.3? Or the fact that I am still on a bone stock fuel system? I would have possibly dipped into the 12's at 13psi if it wasn't for my slipping clutch (RPS gave me a factory toyota disc with my MAX clutch kit.. :( )

91 celica st
01-23-2007, 09:03 AM
<-------- winner

i had a geo that would have beat you all

in before the lock

burnyd
01-23-2007, 09:23 AM
Ohhh you want to talk about my All-Trac now?? Did you read over the fact that I was only running 13psi of boost to run a 13.3? Or the fact that I am still on a bone stock fuel system? I would have possibly dipped into the 12's at 13psi if it wasn't for my slipping clutch (RPS gave me a factory toyota disc with my MAX clutch kit.. :( )

:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

vip09
01-23-2007, 09:38 AM
Lol.. anyway.. back on topic. When I find another transmission, andy10889 and I will see how my gt-s does against his swapped GT. I think he's running 12psi already without a boost controller.. so doesn't look good for me :(

ciento44
01-23-2007, 05:17 PM
I bet you money that you can't. Out of all the people on newcelica.org, only three people have gotten 14.7 bone stock. It took A LOT of practice for me to be able to do that. I have a stack of slips from my local 1/8th mile track thats over an inch thick.. its about 100 passes or more.


I didn't want this to become an argument... :(

But i'm positive that i could. Not that it really matters. It's a forum. I probably have just about 300 passes on my GT, and i have people that pay me to drive their cars on test and tune days locally.

vip09
01-23-2007, 05:40 PM
I didn't want this to become an argument... :(

But i'm positive that i could. Not that it really matters. It's a forum. I probably have just about 300 passes on my GT, and i have people that pay me to drive their cars on test and tune days locally.

Well it would be cool to see what you could do. It takes a lot of finesse to be able to land in lift on the 1-2 shift. It puts a lot of strain on the synchros, which is why my 2nd gear is gone now. With the stock rev limiter and gearing, it is not possible to land above 6200rpms on the 1-2 shift. So you have to slip the clutch just a little, or make the wheels spin to be able to stay above 6200rpms... all while shifting as fast as humanly possible.. I'm talking like pressing the clutch in so fast that it throws me up in the seat lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGikKpvdeU4

This gives you an idea. He has the rev limiter up to 8600 I believe, so you don't have to shift nearly as fast to land the 1-2 shift in lift. But DYI01 from newcelica is one of the better drivers.. I can tell from the video that he is launching it correctly... but in my opinion he wasn't getting back on the gas quite nearly as quick as he should have after the launch. Cool vid tho!

Blackcloud
01-24-2007, 03:05 AM
I wish i woulda lined my truck up with lunis gt when i was downthere. he said i would take him off the line fo sho

vip09
01-24-2007, 04:22 AM
I wish i woulda lined my truck up with lunis gt when i was downthere. he said i would take him off the line fo sho

Yah, general rule of thumb.. don't race a truck from a dig unless you know what you are doing! lol

I thought Luni had a GT-S 6spd?

Blackcloud
01-24-2007, 04:46 AM
gt 5 speed.

and werd on the truck thing. diesel with a chip will own j00. :hehe:

TheNefariousOne
01-24-2007, 05:39 AM
He used to have a GT...he sold that (I think) and later bought the GT-S he owns now. He'll prolly pop in here in a sec and clarify.

burnyd
01-24-2007, 05:57 AM
you should showcase your celica on ripleys believe it or not as the third ever gts to break into the 14s stock..

vip09
01-24-2007, 06:15 AM
you should showcase your celica on ripleys believe it or not as the third ever gts to break into the 14s stock..

A lot of people have ran 14's stock.. quite a few have got 14.9, and just a handful of people to get 14.7-14.8.

burnyd
01-24-2007, 06:19 AM
ok here you go heres your..... http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg

your still a 14 second car.. congrats to that.

vip09
01-24-2007, 06:23 AM
I don't see anything wrong with having a 14 second bone stock celica. But thanks for the cookie.

burnyd
01-24-2007, 06:25 AM
I don't see anything wrong with having a 14 second bone stock celica. But thanks for the cookie.


I hope you are going to the dragon meet so I can shove that 13.3 up your ass


kthanksbye :D

vip09
01-24-2007, 06:32 AM
I hope you are going to the dragon meet so I can shove that 13.3 up your ass


kthanksbye :D

haha! my alltrac handles like a riverboat.. i wouldn't drive it that far anyway. The dragon would be a good 10 hour drive for me. When is the dragon meet anyway?

All-Trac definitely won't make an appearance, so don't get your hopes up.. lol.

http://photos-701.facebook.com/ip002/v54/53/104/51204144/n51204144_30531701_1386.jpg

91 celica st
01-24-2007, 07:12 AM
lol^
woulda been better if you were standing in it

vip09
01-24-2007, 07:20 AM
lol^
woulda been better if you were standing in it

http://photos-164.ak.facebook.com/ip001/v12/53/104/51204144/n51204144_30202164_1881.jpg

91 celica st
01-24-2007, 09:13 AM
^FTW!!!!

lol i wish my hardrive didnt crash so i could pot the one of me standing in the geo metro's engine bay

andy
01-24-2007, 06:28 PM
you can see my celica! heheheh. 5sfte FTW!