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2kSnakEater
12-07-2006, 10:59 PM
G-force tests:

2001 Camaro =.87
Its also saying 13.9 in the 1/4 Thats kinda low for what I have personally seen.
http://www.edmunds.com/news/column/letters/46802/article.html


2006 Civic SI = .86
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=117762

Discuss.

MoralWarfare
12-07-2006, 11:02 PM
yay?

alltracman78
12-07-2006, 11:03 PM
You meathead, what forum do you think this belongs in?

ciento44
12-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Skidpad numbers really don't mean a whole lot, to be honest...

If i remember correctly, the F355 Spider only pulls like .79 on the skidpad, but good luck outhandling one of those in a Camaro, civic, or celica.

How many times are you pulling circles on a perfectly level, smooth surface?

I'd be more interested in what the respective cars can pull max and average on a real road course, where you have other variables such as elevation change, banking. Then you can get real-life g-force measurements and even measure the max entry and exit speeds, which is what the real performance indicators are.

But yes, still interesting. :)

hobbie2k
12-08-2006, 03:59 AM
Yeah, skidpad numbers alone say little about a car's handling prowess. By your logic the Nissan Sentra SE (not even the SE-R) owns the Camaro with a skidpad number of .89

burnyd
12-08-2006, 06:50 AM
13.9 please... there alot faster than that... low 13s stock... the girl Im goodfriends with who has one stock auto went 13.30s after a couple of practice runs. But compared to civic si its an obvious choice as to whats better I meen honestly. It gets about the same gas mileage, you can find them I think for close to the same price... plus there really really really easy to make fast. If I wasnt into the toyota thing I would jump on the ls1 bandwagon in a heartbeat.

Morwan
12-08-2006, 07:12 AM
G-force tests:

2001 Camaro =.87
Its also saying 13.9 in the 1/4 Thats kinda low for what I have personally seen.
http://www.edmunds.com/news/column/letters/46802/article.html


2006 Civic SI = .86
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=117762

Discuss.
Camaros are ugly, a WS6 is better.

Hookecho
12-08-2006, 01:21 PM
^^the civic is uglier.

2kSnakEater
12-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Camaros are ugly, a WS6 is better.

thats why I own a 2k Firehawk Trans Am


and why isnt this in OT? damm, can somebody move it to ot please.

alltracman78
12-08-2006, 02:56 PM
No, I moved it for a reason.

It's a CAR topic, NOT an OT topic........

2kSnakEater
12-08-2006, 02:58 PM
oh ok! I thought I had put it in the wrong forum, JOIN CHAT I MUST TALK TO JUUUU!!

Slider
12-09-2006, 10:20 AM
One major thing I dislike about magazine tests is that they use different tires on every car. Every car they test should have the same tires or at least the same type of tires if they want to compare them. For example one of them was comparing a Mazdaspeed 3 wearing max performance summer tires to a WRX with the awful stock all-seasons.

TheNefariousOne
12-09-2006, 11:18 PM
That's an important part of comparison though. They are testing stock cars (usually), not modified, so putting different tires on there would defeat the purpose.

hobbie2k
12-09-2006, 11:49 PM
That's an important part of comparison though. They are testing stock cars (usually), not modified, so putting different tires on there would defeat the purpose.

Exactly, I think one guy wrote a column on why they don't put a common tire on their test cars. The issue is that a lot of different factors (not just max grip) are used by a manufacturer to determine which tire they use, including cost, wear, road noise, and comfort levels (all factors that reviewers take into account when rating a car). In addition, while performance levels for most All-Season shod cars would improve with a standard sport tire, the performance of some Summer shod cars might actually decrease because the car's systems aren't designed for the "test" tire.

But, that's why many reviewers make a point of telling the reader when a car's substandard performance could be improved with a different tire.