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2kSnakEater
10-15-2006, 06:58 PM
with hand tools and the shit I had to work with it would of taken me 2 weekends to pull this b1sh out, but with Ricky we got that sh1t taken care off in 1 day.

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2kSnakEater
10-15-2006, 06:59 PM
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burnyd
10-15-2006, 07:23 PM
ricksta has a prono mustache. good luck with the at

2kSnakEater
10-15-2006, 07:56 PM
Thanks, I also just got the paper work from the A/T, the people that shipped it is:

Rapid Transport
14547 176th Street
McAlpin, FL 32062
(386)-776-1438

I wish you luck on what ever happens with your MR2, let me know If I could be of any help.

burnyd
10-15-2006, 08:00 PM
thanks mang.

Ricksta
10-15-2006, 08:10 PM
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look at the size of my wanger!!! :hehe:

TEAMFaint
10-15-2006, 08:12 PM
Congrats on gettin all the work done on that thing, another alltrac is being saved, its a happy day for Toyotas all around the world:)

You should clean up the undercarriage though, maybe get it sandblasted and undercoated, seems a bit rusty, probly just surface though, I'm sure she's 100% stable.

Ricksta
10-15-2006, 08:13 PM
i had fun...there was a few things that were different then the 5sfe pull but it all worked out pretty quick. i broke pretty much all my cheap sockets but o well i need more anyways!

Ricksta
10-15-2006, 08:14 PM
Congrats on gettin all the work done on that thing, another alltrac is being saved, its a happy day for Toyotas all around the world:)

You should clean up the undercarriage though, maybe get it sandblasted and undercoated, seems a bit rusty, probly just surface though, I'm sure she's 100% stable.

pretty much all the bolts are rusted to hell and need to be replaced. everything under the car needs to be sandblasted theres so much rust. my gt came from up north and i dont have a spec of rust underneath. goes to show the previous owner of chris's car didnt take very good care of it. but shes in good hands now

MrWOT
10-15-2006, 09:35 PM
What do you have religious preferencess that preclude the use of degreaser or something? Grats on a job well done, but if anyone ever asked me to help them without cleaning the engine bay and undercarriage first, I'd leave a mushroom shaped bruise on someones forehead :squint:

Cavanagh
10-15-2006, 10:14 PM
^^^^HAHAHA^^^^

Congrats foos....BTW, are you willing to sell any of the parts your not using? like the fogs and prehaps the bumper bracket thingy. Thanks.

2kSnakEater
10-16-2006, 02:32 AM
nothing will be sold that hasnt already been sold before the project started, I do have a broken side marker light that I would be glad to sell to you for $200 shipped just for you Cav, its one of those ultra JDM Mad Tyte marker lights just the thing your little ST needs.

sloceli
10-16-2006, 02:44 AM
with hand tools and the shit I had to work with it would of taken me 2 weekends to pull this b1sh out, but with Ricky we got that sh1t taken care off in 1 day.
Damn, I can get an engine out in 2.5 hours.

2kSnakEater
10-16-2006, 02:59 AM
so can I, it just has to be on the back of a boat and be under 40hp.

GT4SOM
10-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Damn, I can get an engine out in 2.5 hours.
You ever tried to pull one out of a alltrac? Much harder then a swap. 2ksnake eater damn thats alot of rust on that car man. Gotta love the ziplock bag technique to keep the frion in the ac lines. :hehe: Kudos.

burnyd
10-16-2006, 03:21 AM
2.5 hours after being pulled first time... there was prolly so much rust and broken bolts :(

Cavanagh
10-16-2006, 03:35 AM
nothing will be sold that hasnt already been sold before the project started, I do have a broken side marker light that I would be glad to sell to you for $200 shipped just for you Cav, its one of those ultra JDM Mad Tyte marker lights just the thing your little ST needs.

Oh really sweet? Mabye while your getting my marker light you can go fuck yourself......:thefinger

burnyd
10-16-2006, 03:37 AM
nothing will be sold that hasnt already been sold before the project started, I do have a broken side marker light that I would be glad to sell to you for $200 shipped just for you Cav, its one of those ultra JDM Mad Tyte marker lights just the thing your little ST needs.

Since when did the marker light become worth more than the car?

Colossus20v
10-16-2006, 04:15 AM
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2kSnakEater
10-16-2006, 01:56 PM
You ever tried to pull one out of a alltrac? Much harder then a swap. 2ksnake eater damn thats alot of rust on that car man. Gotta love the ziplock bag technique to keep the frion in the ac lines. :hehe: Kudos.


no thats to keep the dirt/dust/bugs out of the lines and to keep the O-ring intact and unbroken.

2kSnakEater
10-16-2006, 01:59 PM
2.5 hours after being pulled first time... there was prolly so much rust and broken bolts :(

fortunatly the only bolt that broke was the front engine mount bolt, witch can be replaced. We had trouble with one of the bolts that attached to the spindle, but one of my neighbors had a welder and fixed that problem.

ziden
10-16-2006, 10:14 PM
why did you pull the motor from the bottom?

Ricksta
10-16-2006, 10:17 PM
because its the easiest way. the motor catches on the way up otherwise. on the rack in pinion or however you spell it. i dont know how to pull it from the top i always did it from the bottom.

2kSnakEater
10-16-2006, 10:22 PM
awd tranny pwns pulling engine and tranny from the Top

Murgatroy
10-16-2006, 10:23 PM
I have always pulled out the top.

Except with VWs. It takes less than 10 minutes to drop a VW engine tranny combo.

85gtsblackman
10-16-2006, 10:38 PM
why did u pull the motor


oh well i got rwd i can pull the engine in a half hour :hehe:

Ricksta
10-16-2006, 10:41 PM
why did u pull the motor


oh well i got rwd i can pull the engine in a half hour :hehe:
pshhh you noob...i can do it in 15 minutes! :laugh:

burnyd
10-16-2006, 10:56 PM
why did u pull the motor


oh well i got rwd i can pull the engine in a half hour :hehe:


what are you stealing it? :laugh:

GlHlOST
10-16-2006, 11:07 PM
i dont know how to pull it from the top i always did it from the bottom. is that so Rickie?

Ricksta
10-16-2006, 11:35 PM
yes i do my best work on the bottom budday

GlHlOST
10-16-2006, 11:41 PM
im sure u do

2kSnakEater
10-17-2006, 12:49 AM
so, engine is pulled and now the tranny must come out, how many bolts and does anybody have pictures?

burnyd
10-17-2006, 12:51 AM
on the bellhousing? I think 3 or 4 ?

GlHlOST
10-17-2006, 12:52 AM
prolly 4

85gtsblackman
10-18-2006, 02:43 AM
for some odd reason everytime i pull a motor, cept at work, im intoxicated, but do u bag and lable all the stuff in 15 mins as well

sloceli
10-18-2006, 04:08 AM
You ever tried to pull one out of a alltrac? Much harder then a swap. 2ksnake eater damn thats alot of rust on that car man. Gotta love the ziplock bag technique to keep the frion in the ac lines. :hehe: Kudos.

Well lets see here. I have pulled 2 ST185 engines one being from the top with the transmission attached. So yeah it doesn't take much Mind you one of these was in a friends back yard in the grass.

2kSnakEater
10-18-2006, 02:20 PM
so how do you get the tranny off the engine? do I have to relift the engine off the ground?

msvasquez22
10-18-2006, 02:53 PM
get all the bolts off first, there's one bolt that is kinda hard to find and i think theres a little bracket that you have to take off too.i think thats what we did, lift the engine about 6inch off the ground and wiggle the heck out of the tranny. it will probly take two guys and someone holdin the engine.
well thats the way we did it, someone might have a better way.

RIalltrac
10-18-2006, 05:05 PM
We dropped the engine on an old tire to make sure it didnt move too much and to make sure you dont mess anything up and we slowly eased if off. There is one bolt thats sort of hidden, neither jeremy or myself saw it and we ended up snapping the mount off the casting trying to separate it from the engine. Ricky might be good, but I'm still putting my vote in for ATman as the engine removing master, that kid knows every single step by heart and bolt sizes by heart. Never seen anything like it in my life.

Luni
10-18-2006, 06:08 PM
We pulled the DSM AWD tranny and motor out and back in the top.

alltracman78
10-20-2006, 12:16 AM
WeeHa.

Where do I begin?
I get the feeling I'm about to type out another novel......

First off, I've pulled from the top AND the bottom.
Bottom is DEFINITLY easier IMO.
Top you have to juggle it around and wiggle this way and that.
Bottom is basically a staight shot down, with 2? jigs to the front.
You can leave the tail shaft in, and even leave the driveshafts in....

BUT, in all fairness, every time has been on a lift with air.
And once with jackstands in a garage, for Manny. I've never tried a grassy yard....
I might want to do that one from the top... :P

And the bitch is the trans. The engine is no different than the 5SFE in this respect...
Rob, the trans is the bitch. It is quite a bit larger than a Mistu one...

On to what you did.
You should have left the ac compressor in the car and hung it with several zip ties....
This way you won't need a vaccum/refill.

The rust is one of the reasons I didn't like the car...
Not knocking your choice, just my feelings.
If you are serious about keeping this long term, you NEED to get under there and see how much rust damage there is.
Rear wheel wells, brake lines, gas tank/straps, and the 2 braces that run front to back on the bottom of the floorpan. The front swaybar brackets bolt to them.
And anywhere else you might see it.
At the minmum, soak it with PB blaster or such.

As for removing the trans from the engine.
That is the bitch. Honestly, it is almost as much of a PITA as pulling the engine....
Especially if it's rusted together...

Keep in mind what I am going to tell you is OEM ST185 stuff.
You have at minimum a ST165 engine.
And someone has been in there already installing it.
So things could be missing.

There are 2 brackets holding the transfer case to the back of the block. One in the middle of the back [5? 14mm bolts] and one on the end, behind the pass side CV shaft. For this one, remove the shaft and unbolt the 2 bolts holding the bracket to the transfer case [14mm] and leave it bolted to the block. The other one you need to fully remove.
Also you will need to remove the 2 intake manifold stays [4 14mm bolts]. The 2 at the bottoms are the bitch.. Make sure when you reinstall that you get the bottom ones tight.....
There is also a bracket up front between the block and trans. Right by the oil pan. It has 3 14mm bolts.
And a metal plate under this.
It has a nice assortment of bolts holding it on. 3? 10, 2? 12, and 1 14mm bolt.

There's alot more than 4 bolts holding the trans to the block.
There should be 2 17mm ones up top, and I believe several [2/3?] more 17mm on the side. At least one should be in the rear.
Theres a 14mm bolt on the rear "ear" of the block. It is VERY easy to miss. This is the one Chris and I missed.
There are I believe 2 14mm bolts that only hold the metal plate behind the flywheel to the trans. They need to be removed. One is up front, and really long. Should be by the starter.
The other is shorter and is buried under the wiring harnes where it goes over the trans to the underside of the intake man.
This plate will NOT leave the block without removing the flywheel, so don't even bother. Leave it alone.
And do your best to not damage the bolt holes going through it. It is MUCH easier to reinstall with undamaged holes. ;)

Once ALL the bolts are off [TRIPLE check this], you have the fun of persuading the trans to separate.
There are 2 pins. One up top, and one on the front side.
Don't lose them. They will GREATLY help in reinstallation.

I suggest you replace the TO bearing with a OEM one while you are in there.
Also you REALLY should get some electronic connector cleaner [NOT brake cleaner or electronic parts cleaner] to clean out EVERY connector in your wiring harness while you have the chance. Also, replace your ground bolt under the intake man with a fresh one. Preferabley 316 SS.

And of course the usual to the new engine.
Timing belt, maybe water pump and tensioner, if you have the $$, [If you do the tensioner, MAKE DAMN SURE you replace the 2 bolts holding it. They LOVE to strech. And are quite cheap.]
Of course assorted hoses as well.

And that's all for now. I'm sick of typing. :)

alltracman78
10-20-2006, 12:19 AM
Oh yah, you will have to raise it up to remove.
If you are strong enough, you 2 can manhandle it, though you will want someone to steady the engine... I can lift the trans by myself at this point, but I don't know what you can do... :shrug:
Setting the oil pan on a tire or such will help GREATLY in this.
Do you have a clutch alignment tool for when you reinstall?

And when you remove the axles, DON'T pull the inner shaft from the trans, just unbolt them.

2kSnakEater
10-20-2006, 02:01 PM
can I pull said tranny without taking the cv's out? so far we got all bolts from the tranny and the tranny has been seperated about an inch from the engine. I will try again saturday on pulling the thing.

2kSnakEater
10-20-2006, 02:07 PM
also the rust is not too bad, at least the previous owners did something right. There is 1 spot under the car that has rusted to the point of madness, the sway bar mount under the pass side, its rusted off to where on that spot the sway bar isnt attached to the car in that point. Once the car is running and street legal I will look into having someone weld that spot back to pre-rust conditions.