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atx-88
09-06-2006, 02:13 AM
I have never heard of a GT-R until today. Anyone know what this is?

Mister2T
09-06-2006, 02:35 AM
i think its the all wheel steering model over seas? correct me if im wrong..

Murgatroy
09-06-2006, 02:47 AM
i think its the all wheel steering model over seas? correct me if im wrong..
It is another model the US didn't get. I think it is JDM only. It has AWS and a 3SGE. Other than that I think it is just like a GT-S. I may be mistaken though.

atx-88
09-06-2006, 02:57 AM
I am talking with a guy who is selling his GT-R in the US. Where these ever available in the US? Maybe it was an import?

angryyoungnpoor
09-06-2006, 03:26 AM
Not available in the US. Would have to be an import. I'd check to make sure he's not b.s.ing though.

wizzards581
09-06-2006, 04:18 AM
search online for a gtr celica and compare it to a gts. not engine wise though.

Luis C
09-06-2006, 04:28 AM
GT-R is a Jap only car. Same as the Gt-i 16 but with 4 wheel steering

wizzards581
09-06-2006, 06:43 AM
http://www.bestjapancar.com/black23113.htm
http://members.lycos.co.uk/nicruising/html/celica_pics.html

siyindicate
09-06-2006, 06:56 AM
its not the same as a gt-i. the gt-i has a 3s-fe with only 125 hp the gt-r has a 3s-ge with 165 hp the gear box is difrent gt-r has a s53 the sports box and the gt-i has a c52 a economic box the gt-r may or may not have and 4ws the gt-r had a option of Actively Controlled Suspension (ACS) i think that it

Luis C
09-06-2006, 12:16 PM
We got the GT-i 16 with the 2nd gen 3S-GE and S52 box just like in the rest of Europe and most of the world; yes, there was and option where you could get the GT-i with the 3S-FE but it was mostly 3S-G equipped.

AFAIK 4WS was only available on the GT-R and as you said, TEMS was available.

siyindicate
09-07-2006, 06:13 AM
o ok well i neva new that

VikingJZ
09-08-2006, 03:08 AM
There was also a 4WS convertible as well. I have only seen pictures of one car like that. It was black and had a 4WS badge with the side decals.

It was legit too....factory looking stuff with the correct placement.

Cavanagh
09-08-2006, 04:07 AM
4WS! Yay!

2003cbgts
09-09-2006, 06:32 PM
sounds like a sticker some ricer put on his celica... hahahaha

2kSnakEater
09-09-2006, 07:10 PM
sounds like a sticker some ricer put on his celica... hahahaha

+1 you can pick up said sticker at any Discount Auto parts world wide.

iamthecaveman
09-10-2006, 04:55 AM
I have a 4ws 5th Gen (st183). In my opinion, the four wheel steering is a pain in the butt. It sounds good, but its not. You'd think it has a better turning circle, but it doesn't. The rear wheels turn the same direction as the front!

Hugo4
09-10-2006, 01:39 PM
The Nissan fans weren't overly fond of Hicas(their brand of AWS) either. An example of "over-engineering" that never worked as well as anticipated.

siyindicate
09-12-2006, 07:13 AM
I have a 4ws 5th Gen (st183). In my opinion, the four wheel steering is a pain in the butt. It sounds good, but its not. You'd think it has a better turning circle, but it doesn't. The rear wheels turn the same direction as the front!

only if you are going over 20 kph aneything under and thay shuld turn the opsit way if thay dont there is something wrong with your 4ws unit

siyindicate
09-12-2006, 07:14 AM
I have a 4ws 5th Gen (st183). In my opinion, the four wheel steering is a pain in the butt. It sounds good, but its not. You'd think it has a better turning circle, but it doesn't. The rear wheels turn the same direction as the front!

only if you are going over 20 kph aneything under and thay shuld turn the opsit way if thay dont there is something wrong with your 4ws unit

Fuelish
09-12-2006, 04:26 PM
only if you are going over 20 kph aneything under and thay shuld turn the opsit way if thay dont there is something wrong with your 4ws unit That sounds about right.... am unfamiliar w/ Toyo's 4ws, but in general, yeah...slow speeds = opposite direction, higher speeds = same direction steering. .............I think...LOL

Luis C
09-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Yup, thats how it works... slow speeds opposite directions, high speed same direction

iamthecaveman
09-16-2006, 09:47 AM
Must be somthing wrong then, at slow speed the wheels definatly go the same way! I had a look under the car and tried to work it all out, the rear wheel steering shaft (that runs the length of the car) is hooked to the steering box (makes sense), but i cannot see how it could reverse itself, unless there is a solinoid or simular inside the steering box that reverses the shaft at the computers command??? - ie; slow speeds. I'll have to look into it some more. On the dash I have two 4ws buttons, one for 'no-4wd in reverse' (not sure if thas works, havnt checked it out), the other is 'sport' & I have no idea what that does.
At the moment its off the road waiting 3 weeks for an oxygen sensor to be sent from Japan - only 1 week to go, damn I miss driving my celi.

Luis C
09-16-2006, 12:05 PM
As a matter of fact there are some solenoids/relays inside the steering box that usually go leaving the 4WD system unuseable. The guys over at the yahoo list (ICOC, International Celica Owners Club) most of them in Ireland, knew how to fix it

extremeskillz
09-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Damn did you guys see the sweet gt-4 on the japan site. Wow