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celica9303
08-19-2006, 03:54 PM
well my car is red so it is very oxidized, is there and product out ther that will help get the shine back in the car? with out a full repaint (just yet) ive tried numerous cleaner waxes but none of them work.. anyone used Scratch X from meguiars? ive heard that is soppose to get rid of the oxidation.

burnyd
08-19-2006, 04:09 PM
wax is not going to do anything at all. You need cuting creme. It will take all the oxidation out of the car.

When i first bought my mr2 it was oxidated pretty bad. Its a crimson red color but it looked orange and pinkish. The car sat for 4 years without being moved. If you look through my postes you can see a thread I made called Cutting creme ftw. And it shows beforfe and after pics the before and after are amazing.

celica9303
08-19-2006, 05:32 PM
wher do i get "cutting creme"? and what is it?

burnyd
08-19-2006, 05:51 PM
^^ You can find it at any body shop supply store. Just tell them what your deal is and what you want to do.

It shouldnt be more than $15.

Its a cream that you put on the oxidated parts of your car that you rub on like its wax but the paint comes back... here look at my thread on the local board here in pittsburgh....


http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27289

if you scroll through some of the pages looking at pictures it doesnt look like the same car as when I bought it.

ScottGT-S
08-19-2006, 06:59 PM
claybar

celica9303
08-20-2006, 05:55 AM
thanks guys. i looked at my paint more today and im begining to think its more faded than oxdized and i asked my friend what he thought and he thinks faded also but im gonna try an oxidation remover first cuz i dont want o do a complete repaint just yet. is there any way to tell which one it is??

celica9303
08-22-2006, 05:16 AM
any body else?

burnyd
08-22-2006, 05:41 AM
dude buy cutting creme..... but post some pics of your car... I dont know how far toledo is away from pittsburgh...

MCcelica
08-22-2006, 01:32 PM
Toledo is in Ohio. Oh, and Cutting creme ftw.

Slider
08-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Try Klasse all-in-one, if that doesn't bring it back to life your only option is a repaint or leave it like that.

burnyd
08-22-2006, 08:54 PM
Post up some pics of your car I will tell you if you can restore it or not okk... Like look at this....


Before....

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/032_32.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/032_32.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/018_18.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/012_12.jpg

Now this car looked like absolute shit...... Everyone said blah blah blah paint job paint job paint job.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/s5030168.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/s5030148.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/s5030168.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/burnyd/Mr2%20pics/s5030181.jpg


Now the before and after pictures are amazing!... Keep in mind all this was from was about 6 hours and cost me 15 bux!

celica9303
08-26-2006, 12:29 AM
no camera, but yeah the back half of the celica isnt quite as bad as your mr2, you did a good job with it. my cars weird cuz the front is still shiny but as you go to the back (mirrors> rear bumper) it gradually fades more and more.

burnyd
08-26-2006, 05:06 AM
^^ Yes just hit it with cutting cream honestly.... like my car was damn bad... everyone said it needed a paint job but I just put 15 dollars into cutting cream and 6 hours later it came out like that.

celica9303
08-26-2006, 06:38 AM
thanks ill go check it out next week

zmile06
08-29-2006, 12:59 PM
I would recommend 3M Perfect-It ll Rubbing Compound Fine Cut, or any 3M Fine Cut rubbing compound. My friend uses it and its messy as hell but does an amazing job. It made my car look like new.

Meguirs cleaner wax is also really good to use on your car, i would say use the 3M stuff then maintain it with some good cleaner wax after awhile the wax will really start to show and clean your car.

aballz
09-01-2006, 10:30 AM
I've used meguires scratch remover on my oxidized celica and it does look better than before. It brought back a lot of the shine and in direct sunlet, the paint almost looks like it matches up with the side of the car. But once you come close, you can see the oxidation. As far as recommending this product, if your paint is pretty beat up, try it and it should bring back some of the shine. It hink it also took off some of the paint as my microfiber towels started getting a little red.

Morwan
09-07-2006, 03:10 AM
.I think it also took off some of the paint as my microfiber towels started getting a little red.

On a regular car rubbing compound takes of some of the clear-- but our cars had no clear coat. :(

burnyd
09-07-2006, 04:15 AM
^^

yupp


dude just use cutting cream its the only thing thats going to work effectively... Look at my example pics!

ST185
08-22-2008, 05:53 AM
so where exactly do you get this cutting cream stuff cuz my car is in need of a major touch up

burnyd
08-22-2008, 06:04 AM
body shop! Its like 40-50 bux a bottle but its well well well well worth the investment...

and quit bumping this thread I miss my mr2 enough!!

Galcobar
08-22-2008, 07:03 AM
Cutting Creme falls into a category of paint care products which contain abrasives.

The heavy-duty abrasives are considered compounds, and are the step applied to deep scratches, heavy oxidation, or after sanding. You can find various levels of them, but they are typically meant for use by someone with reasonable experience with a rotary tool. Compounds are basically meant just for levelling your paint, not for bringing out shine or luster.

Abrasive polishes are what most consumers use, and they can do quite a job. They are typically more suited to use with a random orbital polisher, which isn't prone to leaving swirl marks and holograms like a rotary. A DA's not idiot-proof, but it's harder to screw up your paint job with.

Cleaners, cleaner waxes, pure polishes and pure waxes/sealants do not fix paint defects. They can make paint in good condition look better, or in the case of waxes and sealants keep it that way. In short, they should be used after the car's been properly polished.

To make your damaged paint look good again is much like making a damaged hardwood floor look good again; you have to smooth out the top level. Too much smoothing can of course strip the clearcoat right off, but if you've done that, at least you know the surface is prepped for a respray.

Using a machine will make the work go faster, but you can typically do the work by hand -- it just requires more time.

It really depends on the condition of your paint. ScratchX is good for mild damage. If your car is significantly damaged, I'd recommend a product in the same line as Meguiar's M105 Ultra-Cut Compound.
Link from Meguiar's forum on the effect of M105.
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25251
Link on how to use ScratchX by hand -- the technique is applicable to most any abrasive polish.
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21321

If you can't find the product locally, order through meguiars.com. I purchased all my equipment except my DA from them and the service was excellent.

dups90gt
09-11-2008, 01:36 AM
the BEST $14 I EVER SPENT!!!!

OK I read this article and went to Canadian Tire and bought Meguiars Cut Cleaner for approx $14 Dollars Canadian.
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6610.jpg

I spread it on with a sponge like minute wax, no rubbing at all! its like putting sun tan lotion on your girls back!
Heres the fender
Before
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6611.jpg
After
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6615.jpg
Before
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6613.jpg
After
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6614.jpg
Roof Before
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6616.jpg
Roof After
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6617.jpg

Here's a shot of half the roof done
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6619.jpg

Rear Fender before
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6621.jpg

Rear Fender After
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6622.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6624.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6627.jpg
Then it started to rain... *sigh*
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6695.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii216/fmaramara/IMG_6696.jpg

I used a polisher but noticed on the rear, that it works just as well if you wipe it off by hand! Damn! Really Cool stuff! Its been 4 days and its still shiny! I need to seal it tho.

extremeskillz
09-11-2008, 02:16 PM
Does the stuff work on rims too?

dups90gt
09-11-2008, 03:07 PM
haven't tried it but I don't see why it wouldn't?

Galcobar
09-11-2008, 06:38 PM
If the rims are painted, yes. If they're clear-coated (which is just another paint), yes. If they're polished metal, not really -- get a metal polish.

canucks4cup
11-10-2009, 06:11 AM
looks great
gonna try it this weekend on my faded super red celly
any tricks or tips?