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presure2
08-09-2006, 12:12 PM
so yea...wheelspin all thru 1st and 2nd gear makes for a cool show for your friends...but super slow times at the track.
i ran 14.1 @ 102mph in early july @ island park in NJ....damn wheelspin allllll thru first and 2nd. plenty fast enough for 13's just not enough traction..
so, with that in mind (and the aweful thought of ripping thru a set of michelins @ 175$ea..) i went ahead and ordered these:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/wasted75/IMG_4649.jpg
yup, BFG Drag Radials. ;) 225/50/15 :)
contact patch is a tiny bit over 9"
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/wasted75/IMG_4648.jpg
that alone should have a nice effect on traction, never mind the nice sticky compound. :D

a couple more of the tread pattern, and sidewall.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/wasted75/IMG_4651.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/wasted75/IMG_4650.jpg


i figure if hyde can run 1.4 60ft. times with them, i should at least be able to improve traction somewhat lol
if all goes as planned, i'll be seeing what the 5SFTE can do with TRACTION @ englishtown on the 18th
ill be installing them on a set of stock 6th gen rims, and starting them @ ~20psi, lowering by a lb or 2 each run, till the 60's dont improve anymore.
comments? sugesstions? discuss! :)

burnyd
08-09-2006, 03:47 PM
well your trapping at a 13 sec run... Good luck

alltracman78
08-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Um. yay?

Those tires are WAAAAAAAAAY too big for that tiny engine you have in your slomobile.

Get some REAL meat buddy.

alltracman78
08-09-2006, 06:04 PM
haha.
jk.

Nice man. I need to go SMALLER for less traction at the strip.
Go figure. lol

presure2
08-09-2006, 06:05 PM
Um. yay?

Those tires are WAAAAAAAAAY too big for that tiny engine you have in your slomobile.

Get some REAL meat buddy.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH jeremey, your too funny man! :lolhittin
got enough under there to smoke your slow ass! :saythat:

alltracman78
08-09-2006, 06:05 PM
:laugh:

On what track?
:D

Sean
08-10-2006, 06:47 AM
What suspension setup are you running, spring rates?

How wide are your rims? Drag Radials sidewalls are very pliable, manipulable, you can fit a 245 on a 7 inch rim if you desire...

Let me know how it goes, you know I'm in the same boat. I'm just wrapping up my suspension install, and my new Blitz SBC ID with Blitz Power ID meter (speed limited boost control :) ) which should all help with traction.

presure2
08-10-2006, 11:39 AM
sean, im running eibach sportline springs all around.
the tires will be mounted on 15X7 stock 6gc rims.
i dont think i could fit a bigger size in the wheelwell.

=cJ=
08-13-2006, 11:47 PM
Very nice :bigthumbu

Say goodbye to something in the drivetrain now you have traction :p

/me takes bets, clutch, driveshafts, what'll it be....

presure2
08-14-2006, 12:43 PM
Very nice :bigthumbu

Say goodbye to something in the drivetrain now you have traction :p

/me takes bets, clutch, driveshafts, what'll it be....

haha, yea. actually i AM a bit worried about what will happen @ the track...the clutch dont worry me, (its an aftermarket unit) im more worried about axles...lol lucky for me i have a set of spares sitting in the garage..needless to say i will be bringing tools, and the extra axles with me when i hit the track. :lolhittin

andy
08-20-2006, 01:10 AM
dont forget tranny fluid...

TheNefariousOne
08-20-2006, 03:54 AM
Preload!! Save your drivetrain. (note that I don't really know what preloading exactly is, so you're gonna have to search. :D)

presure2
08-21-2006, 12:22 AM
no issues with the tranny or axles.
only got 2 runs, one of which i mishifted into 2nd from 3rd.
lmao.
not good.
heres a vid of my first run, i launched way too low, ~2-2500rpm, and bogged, then missed 5th at the end of the run. lmao.
right click save as (2MB) (http://home.comcast.net/~wasted75/my143runatNED.wmv)

Sean
08-21-2006, 01:50 AM
So what was your 60 foot time, how did the butt dyno feel traction wise? Got more grip?

presure2
08-21-2006, 01:58 PM
So what was your 60 foot time, how did the butt dyno feel traction wise? Got more grip?
my 60ft for that run was 2.31 ....pretty shitty.
i launched WAY too low...
traction is INCREDIBLY improved with the DR's.
any kinda launch at anything above 2krpm with the old tires just resulted in massive burnouts and wheelhop.
on the two runs i got, wheelspin was practicly none.
im hoping to get back out to the track in a couple weeks on a day that is not so busy so i can actually get some practice in, doing 1 run @ 7:30pm, and my next @ 10pm is not really condusive to good results. seeing as how i am a total noob at the track (i have 5 runs now total in the celica.)
there is still pleanty left in the car, i ran 14.1 at island dragway earlier this year on street tires.

Sean
08-23-2006, 12:40 AM
Very cool, well not the 60 foot time :hehe:

I have maybe 60 + drag launches on mine, and it seems that everyone has been different. I cant wait to try with my new setup!

Keep us updated! Take some more vids as well :)

Happy launching

ciento44
08-23-2006, 05:44 AM
I seem to get 2.1s on the button every time i launch the car... The whole time going up in smoke, with my crappy bald all-seasons. :P

2kSnakEater
08-23-2006, 09:44 PM
lol, I cant wait to get these 345 Hoosier drag radials for the T/A. Then I can pwn3 the rear end into tiny peices.

TheNefariousOne
08-24-2006, 03:19 AM
Wouldn't real slicks (non street legal that is) work even better than DOT approved DRs?

TNO

Sean
08-24-2006, 03:32 AM
Can be dangerous if mismatched with normal street radials up front, ecspecially on short wheel based cars like the MR2.

Sure it would give more traction, but then the car wouldnt be street legal by terms of the DOT.

presure2
08-24-2006, 11:54 AM
Wouldn't real slicks (non street legal that is) work even better than DOT approved DRs?

TNO
im sure they would,
however, i race on street nights, on which no real slicks are allowed.
plus what sean said. :lolhittin

TheNefariousOne
08-24-2006, 02:52 PM
Ahh ok. Why is it dangerous though? Will the lack of traction in the front make the car get all squirly at higher speeds or something?

presure2
08-24-2006, 03:05 PM
Ahh ok. Why is it dangerous though? Will the lack of traction in the front make the car get all squirly at higher speeds or something?
i dont know too much about how exactly it affects a FWD car, but on the 2, they say it make it VERY squirly as speed increases.

Sean
08-24-2006, 04:37 PM
FWD and slicks are an acceptable combo because your drive wheels are also your steering wheels. Giving more traction to your tires that steer has no negative sides to.

Where as in a two, its opposite.

Sean
08-24-2006, 04:37 PM
But thats just what dem honda boys told me :hehe: