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GT4SOM
07-16-2006, 02:51 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celica-1990-Toyota-Celica-All-Trac-Turbo-3SGTE-alltrac-ST185_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ15288QQihZ014QQit emZ330007768713QQrdZ1

Why is it selling for so low? THis is the second time its being listed, the guy in the first one asked for 5k now its 4500. All I can see is that it has over 217k miles? Is that why its so low or does someone know something we are missing?

Schmleff
07-16-2006, 03:39 AM
cause the headlights are broke?

2kSnakEater
07-16-2006, 03:48 AM
JDM motor and tranny has around 70k to 80k

not the original motor? people are usualy scared when its not the original parts.

2kSnakEater
07-16-2006, 03:50 AM
to bad Rick bought that ST, he could of had an All-Trac for a little bit more.

Lagos
07-16-2006, 04:01 AM
thats a normal price. most alltracs go for about 5grand. this one has a crap load of miles on it.

alltracman78
07-16-2006, 04:19 AM
Yeah.
That and it being a 90.....

TEAMFaint
07-16-2006, 04:23 AM
cause the headlights are broke?


Headlights arent broken...sleeeepy eyes

Ricksta
07-16-2006, 04:29 AM
to bad Rick bought that ST, he could of had an All-Trac for a little bit more.

yes...but no money to fix it :(

once i have a few things done to the gt i plan on selling the st and getting an r1. as nice as it would be to have an alltrac as a daily its not cost efficeint to be spoolin 24/7. and i would always feel tempted to dump every last penny i had into her. i dont need to be doing that to two cars!!

Schmleff
07-16-2006, 04:33 AM
Headlights arent broken...sleeeepy eyes


ahh, brings back the viagra hood mod... :owned:

ciento44
07-16-2006, 06:08 AM
Damn. I'm mad that this auction didn't come a month later...

Elektr0de
07-16-2006, 06:32 AM
That cars biggest problem is...









its from JERSEY

Punisher
07-16-2006, 06:39 AM
It is a good car tho..

MrWOT
07-16-2006, 07:11 AM
Doesn't mention the A/C so that's probably busted, doesn't show interior pics, so might be ripped up in the back, and it doesn't have a stereo in it. I'd buy it anyway, just because it has a good body.

gt4wannabe
07-16-2006, 07:21 AM
The guy's been trying to sell it on Alltrac.net forums apperently no one wanted it for some odd reason so its on ebay now from what i read from the alltrac forums the car is legit but like members have said, people tend to be afraid of the fact that is it not "Original Parts."

Punisher
07-16-2006, 07:47 AM
no.. not that no one wanted it but everyone that confronted him about it didn't have any fucking money.

As to the interior, it's mint IIRC from the pics.

91 celica st
07-16-2006, 08:07 AM
plus you wont ever get anyone from cali or florida to buy it cuz of smog and it will never be street legal

Gary
07-16-2006, 08:53 AM
plus you wont ever get anyone from cali or florida to buy it cuz of smog and it will never be street legal
not in FL.
JDM, or whateverDM won't matter here.

burnyd
07-16-2006, 08:54 AM
I was just about to buy it..... then the next day I road in an mr2 brought back my love for the mister 2. But anyways I was looking at his posts in alltrac.net he was asking for alot of help in some previous postes... Guy aparently had alot of problems with the car. Plus hes selling that at to buy another at... It just didnt make sense.

91 celica st
07-16-2006, 09:11 AM
i thought there were a bunch of counties in florida that had pretty sttrict smog laws... and in cali you cant gey by w anything...thers only 4 counties i believe that have no smog...one is about 50 miles north of me called clear lake but that place is a shit hole

alltracman78
07-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Well, technially there are very few places that it would be legal.
Any state that has an inspection requires an EGR valve.
Doesn't mean they will look for it, or that you won't pass, but it's not legal....


The biggest thing that is wrong with it is it's not sitting in my driveway....

burnyd
07-16-2006, 04:37 PM
yupp it will fail visual... But I got that taken care of for my car :)

GT4SOM
07-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Florida doesn't have emissions other wise both my cars would fail. I've thought about buying it for the good body but it does have alot of miles on it. I guess there are alot of crap that can start going bad on it and it aint cheap to replace. USDM Ecu sucks.

Thebish5thgen
07-17-2006, 03:07 AM
so anyone able to clue me in on why this car isn't street legal, and how I could make it street legal if I'd bought it? or at least able to pass inspections?

GT4SOM
07-17-2006, 04:02 AM
It has a jdm engine, could be that it will fail the smog test also some states I believe don't allow you to replace the motor from another country or something. All I know is if the car has a tittle I can take it to my local tax collectors office here in fl and register it. 8-)

creech_r
07-17-2006, 04:07 AM
swap a usdm motor in? hehe

Thebish5thgen
07-17-2006, 06:19 AM
Yea, but it'll pass inspection right? My boy Daklieb thinks there shouldn't be any problems, seein as accordin to him the JDM emissions are more strict than usdm....or is that wrong? I don't know. anyways I'm checkin it out first chance I get haha.

Thebish5thgen
07-17-2006, 06:20 AM
anybody able to run a carfax on it? Vin=jt2st88pxl0005753

creech_r
07-17-2006, 06:29 AM
and you don't get the rims...just stockies.

Thebish5thgen
07-17-2006, 06:30 AM
true but if the car runs nice, rims buying my own rims will be worth it :-D

AK47
07-17-2006, 01:43 PM
JDM emission are not strict at all...thats why they dont pass here. Best thing to do it get a usdm intake manifold and hook up the egr shit..then you have no issues.

2kSnakEater
07-17-2006, 05:55 PM
It has a jdm engine, could be that it will fail the smog test also some states I believe don't allow you to replace the motor from another country or something. All I know is if the car has a tittle I can take it to my local tax collectors office here in fl and register it. 8-)


I love florida, I figure il gut the down pipe cat while i have the entire front end off the All-Trac.

extremeskillz
07-17-2006, 06:15 PM
Ive been watchin that car for a while. But i own a 93 gts thats y wouldn't buy it. I would strickly buy a stock 93 alltrac.

Luni
07-17-2006, 06:42 PM
I want that fucking car.

2kSnakEater
07-17-2006, 06:46 PM
then buy that fucking car, its cheap for an All-Trac

Thebish5thgen
07-17-2006, 06:50 PM
I'm goin up tomorrow to test drive it hopefully. four hour drive lol.

Luni
07-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Are you going to buy it?

Cause if you do Ill kill you and take it :)

alltracman78
07-18-2006, 12:54 AM
JDM emission are not strict at all...thats why they dont pass here. Best thing to do it get a usdm intake manifold and hook up the egr shit..then you have no issues.

Strictly by the emissions test, no visual, a JDM engine should pass.
It's the visual that will fail you.
If they know where to look, hehe.

Thebish5thgen
07-18-2006, 06:27 AM
yea I'm goin up to buy the car tomorrow, he said he'd cut a little off the buy it now if I buy in person. so me and daklieb are plannin to go up and test drive it tomorrow.

if its as good as he says I'm buyin that focker and gettin rid of my 93 gt. so heads up if
anyone wants an easy project.....haha a little tlc and it'd be amazing again, I just would rather have the alltrac lol. but if I don't buy it for some reason its all your luni lol.

Thebish5thgen
07-18-2006, 06:28 AM
Strictly by the emissions test, no visual, a JDM engine should pass.
It's the visual that will fail you.
If they know where to look, hehe.


hopefully the shop my family always goes to will pass me as long as the emissions is fine lol. otherwise I guess I got a lot of time and money to get it passable. we'll see.


p.p.p.s. anyone able to run a carfax on it? I ran an autocheck through ebay, but I don't know if thats different than carfax.........anyone know?

Elektr0de
07-18-2006, 09:41 AM
lots of mr2 people have a jdm engine swap and they all seem to pass, you shouldnt have a problem esp if you are on good terms with whoever does your inspections

SuperWhite92
07-18-2006, 09:43 PM
I passed the sniffer without issue with a JDM motor and a lack of a primary cat. The lack of an EGR, evap system, and the rest of the visual was taken care of by the idiot 17 yo's who were working at grease monkey that day. They just marked them all N/A.

2kSnakEater
07-18-2006, 10:01 PM
I love Florida!

and if you cant pass the visual because of the egr why dont you just throw one in there and attach random wires and tubes *just* to pass and then take the shit off for the next 364 days of the year.

Thebish5thgen
07-19-2006, 09:58 AM
well I am currently number one on Luni's hit list.....I bought the car!!! It's freakin clean as sh*t and the mystery of the non-pictured back seats? LEATHER f*cks yea. this car is the .......ok I'm done cursing.....but only online hahahaha. so excited.....I think I'll keep my gt for a little while just to make sure this alltrac holds out but then its up for sale, so if anyone wants a gt that needs a little tlc but otherwise has no HUGE issues....let me know.

alltracman78
07-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Congrats man. :)
Now take good care of her....

btw, moving to general.
I don't know why I didn't in the first place....

2kSnakEater
07-19-2006, 06:36 PM
Pics Or Ban!!

Thebish5thgen
07-20-2006, 01:03 AM
lol soon as I get klieber to let me use his camera

Thebish5thgen
07-20-2006, 05:56 AM
hows this for some god damned sheit!!! I get a beautiful car....an amazing car....and the next day.....my girl breaks up with me. life is one big F*cking mess lol.

alltracman78
07-21-2006, 01:32 AM
Screw it man.
The car is better anyways....

Thebish5thgen
07-21-2006, 11:07 PM
agreed....she was controlling, selfish, and psycho. at least my car is submissive, completley unselfish, and it never turns me down less its sick lol.

alltracman78
07-22-2006, 02:19 AM
images/editor/separator.gif:laugh:

You will learn......

Alltracs are VERY selfish.
They take all your $$$$$

Thebish5thgen
07-22-2006, 07:24 AM
lol in repairs? or upgrades that you always have to have? lol

burnyd
07-22-2006, 08:02 AM
^ Its 50/50

Thebish5thgen
07-22-2006, 01:21 PM
gotcha

d1alltrac
07-23-2006, 12:47 AM
Alltracs are VERY selfish.
They take all your $$$$$

:mswerd: my alltrac made me break up with my gf cause she wanted me to buy her stuff and take her places and the trac wasnt having any of that.

congrats on the purchase, ive seen the car on alltrac.net alot and its pretty nice.

Thebish5thgen
07-23-2006, 03:27 PM
yea, now I just need rims.....some speakers for my system 10 slots....and a new stereo.....then after I get it repainted put on a working turbo timer, adjust the turbo up a little.......it'll be set......wow thats a lot. but its pretty the way it is too :-D

Rick89GTS
07-23-2006, 07:14 PM
:mswerd: my ALLTRAC made me break up with my gf cause she wanted me to buy her stuff and take her places and the TRAC wasnt having any of that....
...that rhymes too! :laugh: