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GT-FOUR
01-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Howdy guys.

OK as some of you will have read recently, I had a 20mph crash into a wall ... damn snow lol.

Anyway I have been busy rebuilding the snapped rear suspension bars, only to find now when I go to drive the car that the steering 'slops' from side to side.

Further investigation today reveals a bent 'bar' not sure what its called? i.e. tie-in bar perhaps ? but its bent lol heres some pics :

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1111/19wu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8012/21gh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6353/34po.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5731/47de1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9973/50uk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9926/68ef.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So my questions guys are please...

1. Whats the technical name for the bent bar ?
2. What am I lookin to pay UK Pounds for one ?
3. Are they easy to fit ? bare in mind I only have a standard socket set :(

Thanks in advance.

Matt

SilverCel
01-06-2006, 11:53 PM
That side is a bitch to fix.

Rayme
01-07-2006, 01:13 AM
isn't it a steering tie rod ?

3sgte@daspeedof
01-07-2006, 01:39 AM
Correct.

Murgatroy
01-07-2006, 09:20 AM
Get a new steering rack. It will be a bitch to put in, but it will fix your issues. Then take the car in for a 4 wheel alignment.

Good luck.

GT-FOUR
01-07-2006, 12:50 PM
Hiya guys.

Thanks for that :)

A company just offered me a NEW drivers side steering rod for 25, do you think I could just change the rod and it all be fine again ?

Also, is it easy to change the rod as there is a funny ball joint end on it, do I need a special tool to change the rods ?

Cheers.

Matt :)

96celica
01-07-2006, 04:17 PM
no you have to replace the entire powersteering rack

the tie rod is solid connected to the rack and isn't removable.
the funny joint on the end is called a "tie rod end joint" and is removable with a wrench...

you have to replace your entire rack

Lagos
01-07-2006, 09:11 PM
no you have to replace the entire powersteering rack

the tie rod is solid connected to the rack and isn't removable.
the funny joint on the end is called a "tie rod end joint" and is removable with a wrench...

you have to replace your entire rack


you sure about that? i never tried to take mine off, but i know toyota sells inner and outer tie rods for the cars. im pretty sure you can just replace the rod.

Murgatroy
01-07-2006, 09:55 PM
Well since the rod is bent, pull that boot off and see if it looks like it removable, it might be easier to replaces just the tie rod than the steering rack, but I still think the whole rack is what is gonna need to be replaced.

GT-FOUR
01-07-2006, 11:43 PM
Yeah apparently just the rod can be replaced.

I think I sourced one, however I got no idea how I am to go about changing it, dunno if I need special tools or what ?

As soon as I replace the bent bar, I am ready to drive the car for the first time since I smashed it into a wall before Christmas lol

alltracman78
01-08-2006, 12:16 AM
no you have to replace the entire powersteering rack

the tie rod is solid connected to the rack and isn't removable.
the funny joint on the end is called a "tie rod end joint" and is removable with a wrench...

you have to replace your entire rack
Where the hell did you get this info?

Totally wrong. It's the inner tie rod, and it CAN be replaced.
It's a PITA though.

You will need 2 large wrenches.
I forget the sizes off the top of my head..
Also a chisel and hammer.

urban_legend
01-08-2006, 12:49 AM
Where the hell did you get this info?

Totally wrong. It's the inner tie rod, and it CAN be replaced.
It's a PITA though.

You will need 2 large wrenches.
I forget the sizes off the top of my head..
Also a chisel and hammer.


this is a pain in the ass...ive done one on a civic for a buddy of mine and it was hell...best thing other than a chisel is a good tie rod end remover like a big fork with sloped prongs... pick one up at a local autoparts store...but it takes a lot of beating and framing,

secondly when you take the old one off mark the threads with soap stone or tape or something so you know how far to screw the new one back on, if not you will play hell lining them up correctly...

alltracman78
01-08-2006, 12:58 AM
No, no, no. :P
I'm not talking about removing the outer joint, I'm talking about the INNER joint.
There is a washer that is bent to cover the flat parts on the wrench end. You have to use a chisel or flat screwdriver and hammer to knock it back flat.

Mister2T
01-08-2006, 01:18 AM
well glad to hear your getting it put back togather.

Punisher
01-08-2006, 04:13 AM
ATMan is correct.. it's called an inner tie-rod and it's removeable they are a complete PITA tho.. very difficult to get any torque on them because of their location. Good luck man.

I hope you didn't bust the rack up.. Such as the bushings inside.. kingmen bushings or whatever they are called. If so, you'll need a new rack basically.

42qn30
01-08-2006, 04:41 AM
ive replaced the inner and outter tie rods on both sides of the car. its wasnt that hard with the CORRECT tools. I used and extremely deep well socket to remove the inner tie rod. The outer just has the nut. Then of course the new boots. Took me all of about 4 hours to replace.

some people come up with the weirdest shit sometimes.

edit. check this out

Click here for tie rod tool (http://www.maxtool.com/index/st_autotools.asp)

Punisher
01-08-2006, 05:23 AM
Remember, you have a GT.. this guy has an alltrac.. The diff case is in the way.