View Full Version : Ouch :( Just had a smash ! Can it be saved ?

12-27-2005, 06:59 PM
Howdy guys :(

Well I took the GT Four out today for a run in the snow, figured I'll be ok, 4 wheel drive n' all ... WRONG ! :(

I was at a set of traffic lights, I indicated right, lights went green I set off, turned the wheel accelerated gently, and whoosh, rear end span out on me, must have only been doin 15mph, so I put opposite lock on, not panicing at this stage, and I was saying to myself, ok car, come on, tyres.. grip.. then wtf!!!.. I continued to slide about 25 metres into a wall ! CrUnCh ! :(

Absolutly gobsmaked.. I wasnt bootin it, wasnt showin off, must have hit some ice or somethin and the car just slid onto the oncoming side of the road, up the kerb into a wall, I tell you what, I was lucky there wasnt a lorry comin or any pedestrians walkin by.

2 hrs and 70.50 later and I get the GT Four transported home.

The only exterior damage was the dint to the bodywork next to the wheel, rest is unscathed, and of course the wheel itself.

Basically guys... I have a dilema now and need your advice as to what I do next.

Can anyone tell from these pics whats happened ? I do not know the terminology nor am I familiar with the mechanics of the GT Four, it looks to me like there were 3 tie rods connecting to something ? they have snapped, and also if you look on the pics behind the wheel, theres a bent arc section, could this be a bent wishbone ?

I am currently outta work, so I need to know if this will be a cheap fix, what parts I will need and where I will source them, the recovery man said its not so bad, as it drives fine in reverse and the wheel goes straight therefore no axel damage, but he said not to quote him on that.

Anyway have a look at the pics guys and your 'constructive' input would be much appreciated, if its not repairable, does anyone know of its value ? surly the engine alone is worth a grand ?

Thanks in advance, am off to cry now :(

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12-27-2005, 07:08 PM
Ouch :( Very sorry about the incident! Looks like some pretty bad damage there, but hopefully its fixable (doubt it wouldnt be).

Were you using summer tires? I ask cause of your rims, thats most likely the reason that you had no traction. Summer Tires + Snow/Ice = :eek:

Sorry to hear man, hopefully someone on here can let you know if its fixable! I wish you luck!

12-27-2005, 07:10 PM
Sure it's fixable. But for how much.. I wouldn't know. I'd get a quote, find out what parts you'd need. Try and find some in a junk yard. Looks like a couple bent parts. hopefully your drivetrain isn't bent competely outta wack. I'd have to see it, and I'm not flying all the way over there.

12-27-2005, 07:12 PM
I am just speechless.......

I really don't know how much to fix. I creamed the driver rear corner of a car once. I was doin 65 in a civic.. my front wheel looked like that. It was about 300bux to fix(new suspension, tire/rim/brakes/axle).


12-27-2005, 07:26 PM
Cheers guys thanks for your input so far, will keep you posted on if I can get her back on the road :)

12-28-2005, 03:12 AM
that sux...

01-02-2006, 11:54 PM
damn.. glad you didnt get injured or hit anyone.. looks like its copped a fair beating for such a slow speed incident..

note: im in australia.. over here, that would be some major repairs.. most of the body damage is on the single piece of bodywork, and it would have to be pulled out, cut bogged and re-painted... not cheap.. that wheel looks nasty too, in a FWD model no probs, but the rear has a lot of parts there that are important.. and it doesnt get that bent up without them bending.. id imagine they wouldnt just straighten them but replace them..

my suggestion is as above, take to a shop, get them to look at it, get a quote and find out exactly what is broken and needs to be replaced, then go to wreckers and look around and get the parts cheaper, remember workshops usually go directly for new parts, so that will probably be the costly part..

good luck getting back on the road man.

01-03-2006, 12:07 AM
Teh Suck.

Just get another axle/rotor off another gt4, pop off the plastic panels by your back seats, pound out as much as you can with a flat hammer and dolly, (if you can't reach that far down, you'll have to weld on tabs and pull it out), slick a bit of body filler over it, paint/blend with fender. If the rim is damaged, take it to a shop, they probably can repair it. It didn't look damaged tho.

Good luck.

01-03-2006, 12:30 AM
that 1/4 pannel wont dolly out, the metal looks like it is stretched, youll need a body shop to shrink it. that or the easyer way is to find another 1/4 panel and weld it on

01-03-2006, 12:30 AM
There are 3 rear suspension arms on the GT4. That U bend is one of them [normally it's straight, you bent it. :D]. :D

I can't tell if the axle carrier itself is damaged, but it looks like you will need all 3 suspension arms. Possibly the carrier as well. Looks like the axle itself is fine. Hopefully when the arms bent they didn't tear the mount on the chassis or the 2 on the rear subframe....

Can you get any better pics of there? Maybe pull the wheel off?

Regarding the body damage, I don't think that is accessible from the inside. It will either have to be pulled out, or the whole panel replaced [~$3000 US]

You let off the gas when you slid, didn't you.
Never do that in a AWD car. If you slide, give it gas. :D
Also, you probably don't have a rear torsen, which makes your grip worse...
And as was noted, wet/dry tires SUCK in the snow. For snow you need a bunch of small blocks on your tire, not grooves and wide blocks.
This is why we use snow tires. :D

01-03-2006, 02:52 AM
I know exactly what he means... (no AWD though) Yokohama AVS ES100s... now... no go. Losing traction starting from 4th gear.

01-03-2006, 02:58 AM
looks pretty bad. take it to a good colission shop to make sure it dosnt have frame damage