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Ricksta
12-09-2005, 10:58 PM
where can i get one? i fawkin want one mannn...if im lucky enough to spot one on ebay i got forty other guys bidding on the damn thing and i dont have the time and sit there and watch it till the time ends on it...any ideas?

TEAMFaint
12-09-2005, 11:06 PM
I always wanted to do this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/TEAMFaint/search.gif



First of all, its All-trac. Get them from an JDM engine import company, or from toyota. peace out PLAYA!!!! :hehe:

Ricksta
12-09-2005, 11:14 PM
yeaaaaaaa realllllll funny........was kinda lookin for a web site reference

Doctor Jinxed
12-09-2005, 11:17 PM
The dealership will hook you up with anything. It might cost you a bit, but it'll save you the guesswork.

Ricksta
12-09-2005, 11:25 PM
yea thats what i was thinking but when i was at toyota the other day picking up upper and lower suspension insulators i saw this lady whip out almost three hundred bux for a fucking mirror...one side mirror...i dont know if the dealer is such a good idea..lol

Lagos
12-09-2005, 11:45 PM
call up the dealer and ask. the benefit is that you get a brand new part

i think i just saw an alltac hood on ebay the other day for about 300ish ?

Ricksta
12-09-2005, 11:49 PM
yea its blue but its pretty banged up

Morwan
12-10-2005, 12:07 AM
You could spend $50 to fix it up, and then use the $150 you save to buy porn.

ChrisD
12-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Ebay. Or the dealership. Or just keep an eye on message boards. BTW, it's ALLTRAC. No K.

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 12:23 AM
You could spend $50 to fix it up, and then use the $150 you save to buy porn.

well damn i never thought of it that way...mored money for porn how can i lose?

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 12:24 AM
but see its 300 dollars itself..seventy for shipping.......another fifty to hundred for repair...shit miles well go carbon fiber...really dont want to tho...i dont like the look of it

angryyoungnpoor
12-10-2005, 01:26 AM
You could paint the carbon fiber. Look for the part numbers. go to 1sttoyotaparts.com

AznKlique
12-10-2005, 04:15 AM
patience is a virtue my friend.

I wanted one since I've first knew it existed and more than four years later, I finally found one for cheap, for about 150, 100 for shipping, and 100 for paint. Just search your ass off and check ebay every day like I did. Good luck.

ocb_dave_ocb
12-10-2005, 04:29 AM
Hey Ricksta, Faint already got you on the search thing, but that inspired me to tell everyone to CHECK OUT MY AVATAR

ocb_dave_ocb
12-10-2005, 04:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-CELICA-ALLTRAC-HOOD-SCOOP-[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-CELICA-ALLTRAC-HOOD-SCOOP-TOYOTA-FACTORY-ST185_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33646QQitemZ80207 24189QQrdZ1

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 05:01 AM
yea thats the one i was looking at earlier...its too banged up for me ....as far as painting a carbon fiber hood......doesnt that defeat the whole purpose of having a "carbon fiber hood?" i know those hoods are 600 bux...not cheap at all..ima have a talkin with toyota and see what a brand new price is......

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 05:02 AM
patience is a virtue my friend.

I wanted one since I've first knew it existed and more than four years later, I finally found one for cheap, for about 150, 100 for shipping, and 100 for paint. Just search your ass off and check ebay every day like I did. Good luck.
im sorry dude but i would not wait no four years for a freakin hood........id rather pay the hefty cost of it

cosmic_sombrero
12-10-2005, 05:24 AM
yea thats the one i was looking at earlier...its too banged up for me ....as far as painting a carbon fiber hood......doesnt that defeat the whole purpose of having a "carbon fiber hood?" i know those hoods are 600 bux...not cheap at all..ima have a talkin with toyota and see what a brand new price is......


The original idea behind a carbon fiber hood is weight reduction, not the carbon fiber look.

Gary
12-10-2005, 06:53 AM
im sorry dude but i would not wait no four years for a freakin hood........id rather pay the hefty cost of it

It's indeed a hefty cost
Here is the price from Toyota dealer

Air guide $44.33
Hood $384.51
Scoop $137.18
Vent Right $145.98
Vent Left $145.98

Total : $857.98 (before discount)

Tommy91GT
12-10-2005, 08:32 AM
[QUOTE=TEAMFaint]I always wanted to do this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/TEAMFaint/search.gif
QUOTE]

That is awesome!!!

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 11:41 AM
It's indeed a hefty cost
Here is the price from Toyota dealer

Air guide $44.33
Hood $384.51
Scoop $137.18
Vent Right $145.98
Vent Left $145.98

Total : $857.98 (before discount)

holy shit........how do you know that? and nope not goin to the dealer..ha ha h...i'll find a jdm importer......im notin really too much of a hurry but if i see one thats reasonable that isnt banged up id probably get it

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 11:41 AM
The original idea behind a carbon fiber hood is weight reduction, not the carbon fiber look.
tru...i'll keep all that in mind

AznKlique
12-10-2005, 04:33 PM
haha Im not saying to wait 4 years. haha. Just saying to be patient.

AznKlique
12-10-2005, 04:34 PM
oh u should check on alltrac.net also because i know people are replacing their hoods with those new carbon fiber CS hoods and they may have an alltrac hood laying around.

Ricksta
12-10-2005, 08:45 PM
aight i'll go there too.....was thinking though.why does everyone do these swaps when it would probably be more cost efficient to just go buy an alltrac? lol

fiveSFE
12-10-2005, 11:05 PM
what area do you live in ricksta? i have a black all trac hood, it does have a few dings and what not in it, i do not want to deal with shipping a hood though.

Arcias
12-10-2005, 11:15 PM
aight i'll go there too.....was thinking though.why does everyone do these swaps when it would probably be more cost efficient to just go buy an alltrac? lol

Because good condition alltracs are hard to find. Having a 220hp GTS is pretty hot too.

Also, I think it's because a lot of swappers are tuners in themselves. As opposed to buying an alltrac that already has a lot of power stock and is relatively easier to tune, it's more fun to take a weak GTS and turn it into a monster.

Just my take on it...

heyman
12-11-2005, 12:12 AM
i bought my hood of this board , drove 200 miles to get it !! paid $300 for it. and $20 in gas. but i love it !!!

angryyoungnpoor
12-11-2005, 02:14 AM
aight i'll go there too.....was thinking though.why does everyone do these swaps when it would probably be more cost efficient to just go buy an alltrac? lol

Swaps are quicker and lighter. Alltracs are nice, but are heavy and hard to find. Insurance also. No more cost efficient. I bought my car with a little bit of body damage, needs new paint, a 3sgte, and about 1000 bux in extras for 1500. I've got about 1000 bux more that I have put into it to fix it up, and will keep piling money into it.

JDM engines usually have less miles on them, so the engine will be a little more reliable. Most of the alltracs for sale have 150k plus.

heyman
12-11-2005, 02:27 AM
AYP is right. a guy posted somewhere how his gts with a 3sgte was so much faster than his all-trac and his mr2. My car came with a 4afeso,im swaping in a 4age Blacktop with a 5 speed in march and it will have plenty of power for me. i like to go fast in the mountains were i live , so 180hp at the crank will give all the speed im looking for.

urban_legend
12-11-2005, 02:32 AM
holy shit........how do you know that? and nope not goin to the dealer..ha ha h...i'll find a jdm importer......im notin really too much of a hurry but if i see one thats reasonable that isnt banged up id probably get it


why dont you just take your hood buy the vents, and a scoop cut the holes in your hood fiberglass the new scoop and vents in...save 600 bucks and have the gratitude of doing it your self....not complicated just line everything up right...

Gary
12-11-2005, 02:42 AM
Let me tell you about alltrac owners, speed is not the only thing they buy the car for. They don't buy the car because it's easier than doing 3sgte swap on FWD Celica. But there are something about owning a car with racing heritage, rareness, and originality. One word that come into my mind is "Enthusiast". And I bet that most of them have realized before making a purchase that it is not cost efficient owning one. But don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the swap here. I even consider doing one if I didn't find my first alltrac.

And what else could be more fun tuning a car that capable of handling 400 whp or more and knowing that you can put that power too the ground effectively. :)

Mister2T
12-11-2005, 02:50 AM
Let me tell you about alltrac owners, speed is not the only thing they buy the car for. They don't buy the car because it's easier than doing 3sgte swap on FWD Celica. But there are something about owning a car with racing heritage, rareness, and originality. One word that come into my mind is "Enthusiast". And I bet that most of them have realized before making a purchase that it is not cost efficient owning one. But don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the swap here. I even consider doing one if I didn't find my first alltrac.

And what else could be more fun tuning a car that capable of handling 400 whp or more and knowing that you can put that power too the ground effectively. :)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/3/6/WERD_smiley.gif

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 05:49 AM
why dont you just take your hood buy the vents, and a scoop cut the holes in your hood fiberglass the new scoop and vents in...save 600 bucks and have the gratitude of doing it your self....not complicated just line everything up right...

i dont know.......i think i would just be more satisfied knowing it came from an alltrac....lol....

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 05:53 AM
Let me tell you about alltrac owners, speed is not the only thing they buy the car for. They don't buy the car because it's easier than doing 3sgte swap on FWD Celica. But there are something about owning a car with racing heritage, rareness, and originality. One word that come into my mind is "Enthusiast". And I bet that most of them have realized before making a purchase that it is not cost efficient owning one. But don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the swap here. I even consider doing one if I didn't find my first alltrac.

And what else could be more fun tuning a car that capable of handling 400 whp or more and knowing that you can put that power too the ground effectively. :)

yes your right.........it is a rare car......to me alltrac is the ferrari of celica's. that all wheel drive is a plus too :) but yea i can get where everyone is coming from about the swap...my gts a lot lighter so i wont have to strip out my luxuries just for a lighter car....IM KEEPING MY LEATHER SEATS BITCH!!!!

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 05:55 AM
AYP is right. a guy posted somewhere how his gts with a 3sgte was so much faster than his all-trac and his mr2. My car came with a 4afeso,im swaping in a 4age Blacktop with a 5 speed in march and it will have plenty of power for me. i like to go fast in the mountains were i live , so 180hp at the crank will give all the speed im looking for.

why spend the money on a swap when thats all the crank horsepower your getting? whats the point? you could make your 5sfe do that with probably the same amount of money..well if thats what you have

blakscorpion21
12-11-2005, 05:57 AM
i know a guy who has one, his aim is jaybratt2 and i think his email is jaybratt2@aol.com. he is a real good guy and i was gonna buy it off him but got the cs hood instead.

Murgatroy
12-11-2005, 07:07 AM
why spend the money on a swap when thats all the crank horsepower your getting? whats the point? you could make your 5sfe do that with probably the same amount of money..well if thats what you have
Because you can do this without a turbo or any mods. The 4AGE is a good choice for ST owners looking to stay NA. You can even turbo it for better results.

There is a lot more to consider than just power. The ST185 can put that power to better use than a FWD car. It can also handle more. It might be heavier, but it makes up for it in other ways. If you want to go fast in a straight line though, a 3S swap is fine. You can even tune your suspension and go fast in the corners. Just not as fast as an ST185 or a 4AGE swapped ST.

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 05:50 PM
i know a guy who has one, his aim is jaybratt2 and i think his email is jaybratt2@aol.com. he is a real good guy and i was gonna buy it off him but got the cs hood instead.

shhhhhhhh dont tell everyone!!!! man its too bad i spent all my money this week...ha

lavy_gts
12-11-2005, 08:42 PM
I will sell you all three scoops for 150$

lavy_gts
12-11-2005, 08:46 PM
why dont you just take your hood buy the vents, and a scoop cut the holes in your hood fiberglass the new scoop and vents in...save 600 bucks and have the gratitude of doing it your self....not complicated just line everything up right...


this is what i bought mine for and was planing on doing this, I even started a thread about it.... its impossible unless your name is chip foose.

The side vents would be easy but the middle scoop has soooo much areodynamics to it that a simple mistake in installation could make a hugeeee visual difference.


^Like i said earlier my scoops are for sale, there for all you need to buy from toyota is the hood, saving you hundreds of dollars. im going with carlos because i find that hood more visually appealing.

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 10:51 PM
The side vents would be easy but the middle scoop has soooo much areodynamics to it that a simple mistake in installation could make a hugeeee visual difference.

.

one reason why i just want the original.......ive watched my cuzzin chop his hood the fuck up puttin a scoop on his civic...i want it to be just perfect...before i worry about a hood i need to fix this damn overheating problem first...

lavy_gts
12-11-2005, 11:22 PM
^ the scoops bolt on, no cutting needed

Ricksta
12-11-2005, 11:53 PM
well whats the point of having a scoop if its not doing its job?!?!

lavy_gts
12-12-2005, 12:36 AM
^ wowwwwwwwwww



The stock all trac hood has 3 scoops (2 side vents, 1 center scoop). If you purchase your hood through toyota they'll will send you 4 Major pieces, which include the hood itself plus the 3 scoops which you BOLT on. Every all trac coming from the factory has removable hood scoops. So whether you buy a hood that has been previously enjoyed or bran new, the hood scoops will have the option to be removed, replaced, or in my case purchased seperatly.

Ricksta
12-12-2005, 12:43 AM
well i want the hood cut.....i dont want it to just sit on my hood...but i didnt know about the whole bolt on thing

SuperWhite92
12-12-2005, 12:52 AM
The alltrac scoop doesn't bolt on to the top of the hood, the outline is already in the hood, and the hood is bulged. The scoop piece bolts in underneath the bulge in the hood to actually direct air where it needs to go. There's pictures of Celicas around that have the scoop piece removed.

You will not, as someone has mentioned, be able to buy the scoop and bolt in on top of, or even put it into your N/A hood. It just isn't shaped that way.

Morwan
12-12-2005, 01:42 AM
There isn't a reason to have one unless you're turboed and your intercooler is there.... The extra 'boost' you'll get from having that air come in is only significant when you're going more than 100 mph.

Ricksta
12-12-2005, 03:30 AM
well one day i do plan on doing the swap...its just a matter of time

OldUsedCelica
12-12-2005, 06:15 AM
Doh!

partyball
12-13-2005, 01:34 AM
I'm not to crazy about the killer looks of the stock hood either(sarcasm) I would like to get an alltrac hood someday.

CelicaST202
12-13-2005, 11:15 AM
yea alltrac hood rocks :hehe:

Colossus20v
12-13-2005, 01:52 PM
There isn't a reason to have one unless you're turboed and your intercooler is there.... The extra 'boost' you'll get from having that air come in is only significant when you're going more than 100 mph.
or open individual throttle bodies.

Ricksta
12-14-2005, 04:21 AM
what he said ^^^

alltracman78
12-19-2005, 10:02 PM
Wow.

Where do I start......

TEAMFaint
12-19-2005, 10:18 PM
^
You only WISH you had an Alltrack! :hehe:

alltracman78
12-19-2005, 10:45 PM
:laugh:

alltracman78
12-19-2005, 11:06 PM
Well, here goes nothing.....


this is what i bought mine for and was planing on doing this, I even started a thread about it.... its impossible unless your name is chip foose.
I told yo ass, man. :D


There isn't a reason to have one unless you're turboed and your intercooler is there.... The extra 'boost' you'll get from having that air come in is only significant when you're going more than 100 mph.
Even then it would make no difference.
Unless you move your air filter to right above the spark plug wires.....


well whats the point of having a scoop if its not doing its job?!?!
I don't know what to say to this..... In a different context, that would have been a VERY inteligent thing to say.


I will sell you all three scoops for 150$
I'll sell ya all 3 for $149.99 :D


Let me tell you about alltrac owners, speed is not the only thing they buy the car for. They don't buy the car because it's easier than doing 3sgte swap on FWD Celica. But there are something about owning a car with racing heritage, rareness, and originality. One word that come into my mind is "Enthusiast". And I bet that most of them have realized before making a purchase that it is not cost efficient owning one. But don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the swap here. I even consider doing one if I didn't find my first alltrac.

And what else could be more fun tuning a car that capable of handling 400 whp or more and knowing that you can put that power too the ground effectively. :)
:blahblah:


why spend the money on a swap when thats all the crank horsepower your getting? whats the point? you could make your 5sfe do that with probably the same amount of money..well if thats what you have
'Cause if you actually read the quote, he has a 4afe.


a guy posted somewhere how his gts with a 3sgte was so much faster than his all-trac and his mr2.
Not than a MR2.
A swapped GTS against a MR2 turbo with similar mods will be slower.
It's a heavier car. And FWD.
Now if you had it in a ST or GT, that's a different story.


why dont you just take your hood buy the vents, and a scoop cut the holes in your hood fiberglass the new scoop and vents in...save 600 bucks and have the gratitude of doing it your self....not complicated just line everything up right...
:slapityslap:

That is a hienous idea.
And it is pretty damn complicated. You would need like 50lbs of fiberglass to mold it in......
And when you have to get a jack to open your hood, everyone will laugh at you.....

lavy_gts
12-19-2005, 11:33 PM
^ and the post of the year goes toooooooooo

Alltracman78

http://www.cookiecarnival.com/images/cors/congratulations_bouquet.jpg


p.s. my scoops are now 149.97

alltracman78
12-20-2005, 12:14 AM
:laugh:

Ricksta
12-21-2005, 02:07 AM
damn dude...what inspired you to do that..lol

Smaay
12-21-2005, 05:54 AM
Let me tell you about alltrac owners, speed is not the only thing they buy the car for. They don't buy the car because it's easier than doing 3sgte swap on FWD Celica. But there are something about owning a car with racing heritage, rareness, and originality. One word that come into my mind is "Enthusiast". And I bet that most of them have realized before making a purchase that it is not cost efficient owning one. But don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the swap here. I even consider doing one if I didn't find my first alltrac.

And what else could be more fun tuning a car that capable of handling 400 whp or more and knowing that you can put that power too the ground effectively. :)


This is why i have an All-Trac...Im running the sale on the Carbon Fiber CS hoods. where are you located, i have my black stock hood just lying around...but again i dont want to deal with shipping either..Im in North Los Angeles
http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/399/All-trac%202.JPG

here are a few pics of the CF CS hood i sell

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood2.JPG

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood3.JPG

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood4.JPG

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood5.JPG

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood6.JPG

http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/griffinhood7.JPG

alltracman78
12-22-2005, 03:21 AM
He's in NY. :P

Ricksta
12-22-2005, 03:25 AM
no im in florida..lol...my car is black too mann it would work out perfect. it cant be but a hundred bux for shipping i could send it to you all upfront or through paypal

alltracman78
12-22-2005, 03:39 AM
Right.
I forgot. GlHlost is in NY.
Sorry. :D

Ricksta
12-23-2005, 02:30 AM
damn whered this dude go i want this hood

4thgenceli
12-23-2005, 02:47 AM
Dood..

Do it this way...

Go HERE (http://www.erebunicorp.com/accessories.htm) and the SEARCH the page for part number #233HS.

233HS Universal Celica Style Hood Scoop 25.5"x26" $136.00
http://www.erebunicorp.com/images/ACCESS/CELICA233HS.jpg


They don't have the stock side vents in stock.


OR.. do it the way I did.

http://www.erebunicorp.com/images/ACCESS/hspa259a.jpg
+
http://www.erebunicorp.com/images/ACCESS/SA16AS.jpg

SuperWhite92
12-23-2005, 07:22 AM
I, for some reason, assumed that the members of this site were above this...


:sad:

alltracman78
12-23-2005, 12:15 PM
:shrug:
.....

4thgenceli
12-23-2005, 03:10 PM
The site I have listed in my post has the exact scoop the alltrac has. The other ones are what I'm putting on Celibaby(well, prolly not those small ones). That's the Celica WRC rally type scoop. It will be functional when it's on Celibaby.

Ricksta
12-24-2005, 05:13 AM
i dont want to buy seperate scoops to put them on my hood..i want the whole hood itself

AznKlique
12-24-2005, 06:40 AM
yeah keep on looking for a REAL alltrac hood. Dont cut your hood up. It'll be a whole lot better if you get the OEM alltrac hood.

Ricksta
12-24-2005, 08:37 PM
yea why doesnt anyone seem to understand that seriously?!!?!?! i just want a ?@@?!?!?! altrac hood. that dudes is mint

gt4-Showcar
12-25-2005, 08:04 AM
i know a guy who has one, his aim is jaybratt2 and i think his email is jaybratt2@aol.com. he is a real good guy and i was gonna buy it off him but got the cs hood instead.

Ha, yeah that is me. I still have the hood, it is just so difficult to ship a hood. If you are seriously interested PM me and we can work something out I am sure. I will look into how much it would be for shipping. PM me if still lookin and good luck, Jeremiah

Ricksta
12-25-2005, 11:54 PM
just emailed you on your aol account...get back at me on either here or there..